JasonsBanshee Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) I just got my bike back together today and now I'm having an issue. First off, the changes I made. timing plate set at +4 CPI Inframes Removed dynojet needles and replaced with stock needles set on middle clip installed 320 mains removed stock pilots to look at at put back in (ordered 27.5 but have not recieved them yet) removed air box lid set air screw at 1.5 turns out to start The bike fires up fairly easy. One or two kicks, just as it did before I made these changes. But now if I just ever so slightly give it gas and let off it revs high. If I give it a little more throttle slowly it revs even higher and won't come back down. The only way to get the RPMs down is to give it a nice quick shot of gas with the throttle. It's almost like the slides are sticking but I took off the air box and looked down into the carbs and they appear to be going up and down with the slightest movement of the throttle. If they're sticking I should easily be able to see that right? So the next thing I checked was the choke cross tube which is in place as it should be. So the next thing I looked for is an air leak somewhere but everything looks nice and sealed up. I'm leaning towards the pilots since they are still the stock 25s but I wanted some more opinions. The only thing is that it didn't do this with the Toomey T6s and stock pilots. At first, I had the air screws set at 1.5 turns out and I screwed them in to .5 turns out. It didn't like that too much. When I reved it up instead of coming back down to idle it would actually die. So I played with them some more and ended up at 2 turns out and it seems ok for now until my 27.5s get here. What do you think? Oh, I still have TORS. I was also wondering if that may be it. I just really didn't think TORS could be it since it was not doing this before I made these changes. Edited May 28, 2008 by JasonsBanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Oh, I forgot about the timing plate. It was a pretty cut and dry install so I don't think that's it. I put it on, set it at +4 and got the little pick up thing about 0.02" to the raised section on the flywheel. I've also done some searching and it seems some people put their slides in backwards by mistake. I don't see how that's possible because it appears to me that the long notch on the slide should line up with the piece down in the carb that sticks out a little. The raised higher section of the bottom of the slides is facing towards the rear of the bike. Is that right? Edited May 28, 2008 by JasonsBanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbcmudtruck Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Did you just look for an air leak? Spray carb cleaner aroung the boots. If it dies, or chokes up a bit, you have a leak. Those were the exact same symptoms my bike had, it was a carb boot leaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I just checked it out again. It's the slides sticking. When I had them out I cleaned them real good with parts cleaner. I'm guessing I should lube them up? What should I use? And the reason it was dieing was the TORS doing it's job. Once I unhooked the TORS it wouldn't die anymore. So I need to lube these slide up. What to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 You may want to lube the throttle cables too............. Personally I'd 86 the TORS.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 TORS is now unhooked. I'm ordering an kit to completely do away with it today. This is weird. The slides ONLY stick with it running. With the bike off, they slide up and down just fine. This is why I didn't catch it when I first looked. It just really felt like I slide issue so I watched the slides with the bike running and sure enough, they're sticking. I'm going to lube them up and check to make sure the throttle cable isn't binding anywhere. I know when I was jetting it a may have spun the throttle cable around a time or two in the process. I can't wait to get rid of those big TORS tops in those carbs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 i would think that the oil in the gas would be enough to lube them up. ive never had an issue with a slide sticking. so you can clearly see the slide not coming back all the way down? are the springs worn out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I added some WD40 to the slides and the cables and they are working much better. My springs seem good. It's mainly the slide on the right side that sticks only with the bike running. I messed around with the cable too and that seemed to help it out. It still sticks a little but it'll work for the time being. I'm going to get that TORS removal and a carb sinc tool to really help dial it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS1Inferno Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 on the cable dont us WD40 unless your just breaking them loose, get some good cable lube. the 40 dries up. the slids will get good and oily after runnign for a while, just spred a little of you mix oil on them to help the process get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 I use cable life. It says that it works on carb slides too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Got it back up and running. I've got it jetted for a K&N too that hasn't got here yet so it's a little rich for the time being. Here's a video of it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCJM2PKG24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsBanshee Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) Got the K&N in it so I rode the bike today and I must say, it's screams with the new mods!!! I can't wait to have Kevin Herr port it! I can only imagine that! Still had that sticking slide issue but I think I've figured it out. I pulled the slides and there is some gumming up on them. I'm going to clean them up real good and I'm pretty sure I'll be good to go. Edited May 31, 2008 by JasonsBanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sweet banshee,shee probly ripps pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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