chase@miamiatv.com Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 had something close 80-100hp on a +8 and it would lift up in the sand ONLY if u drove that thing like u stole it... i still wish i went +4 or +6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I know...It seems in south Florida, the hot spot of banshee drag racing, you could put a 400HP Hemi motor in a banshee frame....someone would believe it's still stock...and you guys could launch that with a stock swinger.... Read the posts, did he say with a bar?? No.... Are you going to jump my shit everytime a question about big motors and swingarms comes up? Why don't you do me a favor....use the search button. Find out all the people that have 100HP plus bikes and run stock swingers....gather them up, and then the two or three of you out there can compare notes with the other 98% of us that can't drive...don't know how to setup bikes, that run longer swing arms for a reason. I mean...c'mon. With all these people that build swingarms, you'd be putting them out of a job....if there's no reason to run a longer one...there's no need to fabricate them. Thousands of people out of work, just because you guys have top notch NHRA pro banshee drivers down there with no swingarms...oh, wait, you guys don't run bars, either.... Damn, more people out of work. Ok...back to reality, I'll be here waiting for you... I didn't say he needed a 14 over, did I? Show me where I said he did. I said when I tell people I have one, they think it's too long. But several riders, including the one that just placed at PS, get it to come straight up. I know that a nationally recognized, sanctioned event like that doesn't hold a candle to hot bed of racing action by you, but quite a few of us do think people there can actually ride..etc. We all know you guys are street racing masters....got it. The rest of us will just have to settle for being sub par...I guess. this time i never metioned the stock swingarm buddy maybe you cant read that good. i just dont like how you think you know it all. even for the sand i think your set up is crap. +14 for me is crap. on pavement a +14 is a joke. on pavement a +6 and bar takes care of business. some people dont need a bar with a +6 because they got driving skills something you may not have. i understand you dont agree with our street racing tactics down here but thats not what this discussion was about. the man asked about a +4 and mr. know it all has to come with a drag racing expertise comment saying +4 and racing dont belong in the same sentence. you didnt even care to find out what type of racing he would be doing. read some of the post before us how people have a +4 and +6 and worked out good for them. maybe those guys had the driving skills you wish you had and you just a little mad about that. keep that +14 junk you got and keep on with your drag racing expertise comments. last comments before i go would be learn how to drive your bike so you wont need a jockey to handle your business mr. know it al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 this time i never metioned the stock swingarm buddy maybe you cant read that good. i just dont like how you think you know it all. even for the sand i think your set up is crap. +14 for me is crap. on pavement a +14 is a joke. on pavement a +6 and bar takes care of business. some people dont need a bar with a +6 because they got driving skills something you may not have. i understand you dont agree with our street racing tactics down here but thats not what this discussion was about. the man asked about a +4 and mr. know it all has to come with a drag racing expertise comment saying +4 and racing dont belong in the same sentence. you didnt even care to find out what type of racing he would be doing.read some of the post before us how people have a +4 and +6 and worked out good for them. maybe those guys had the driving skills you wish you had and you just a little mad about that. keep that +14 junk you got and keep on with your drag racing expertise comments. last comments before i go would be learn how to drive your bike so you wont need a jockey to handle your business mr. know it al. Oh boy...here we go. Everyone with motors around here run 10 to 15 over on the sand. I guess if you guys had motors that made power, you'd understand. (And yes...I know 06 has a McCoy motor which I'm sure runs great...his motors run, period) And since this guy never said anything about a bar, I'd call our reading level pretty even. I'm not the best rider in the world, are you? I'm good enough....and before you think you're better than me, come play on the sand. I know plenty of people who ride pavement and do both, and I have ridden on pavement. Do you? You ever ride in sand? You know what it takes? Didn't think so. Bring the bike to Little Sandy in KY when we go and we'll see your proficient riding skills and setup knowledge... Funny thing is, other than the guys down there that race by you, all the other pavement guys seem to think a stock swinger is a great idea...NOT. And...never have I seen you mention extending the front, either. You know people do that from time to time as well... It's safe to say I'm not driving all the way to Florida any faster than you're coming up to MI. So...meet me in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Ill tell you one thing.The last thing my bike lacks is power!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Oh boy...here we go.Everyone with motors around here run 10 to 15 over on the sand. I guess if you guys had motors that made power, you'd understand. (And yes...I know 06 has a McCoy motor which I'm sure runs great...his motors run, period) And since this guy never said anything about a bar, I'd call our reading level pretty even. I'm not the best rider in the world, are you? I'm good enough....and before you think you're better than me, come play on the sand. I know plenty of people who ride pavement and do both, and I have ridden on pavement. Do you? You ever ride in sand? You know what it takes? Didn't think so. Bring the bike to Little Sandy in KY when we go and we'll see your proficient riding skills and setup knowledge... Funny thing is, other than the guys down there that race by you, all the other pavement guys seem to think a stock swinger is a great idea...NOT. And...never have I seen you mention extending the front, either. You know people do that from time to time as well... It's safe to say I'm not driving all the way to Florida any faster than you're coming up to MI. So...meet me in the middle. why bring up o6banshee? we talking about different set ups. in miami there is no sand drag strips to practice on buddy. your bike on asphalt would be a joke. a +14 on pavement you would need to sit on top of your tires. we do different type of racing as you know. my bike is not set up to go in a straight line only. i know with a stock swingarm and straps you cant get 100% power out the hole. i understand that you dont have to keep bringing that up because thats not what we are talking about. im talking about a +6 with a bar taking care of business. bro dont talk all this cool guy stuff about meet me in the middle. what about you come down here to the street and we race for $$$$$$$$$$$. what ever you wanna race for we will put out an extra $500 for the drive. come with that same set up you got and you driving. then you can make me understand about power like you say. big guy. you would get raped like a school girl. and no offense to 06banshee but im sure he hasnt raced another big motor down here yet so no one knows the capabilities of his bike yet. we just know its fast and built by a great mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 (edited) I'll front some prize money.. $100 That should help pay for some of the gast to get there. No bigger then +6 Vs. no shorter then +14 (No bars, stock length chassis. May the best driver win) Sound Fair? Guess not.. posted while I was making my post. :biggrin: Edited April 28, 2008 by Fouledout421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 thats more than fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 why bring up o6banshee? we talking about different set ups. in miami there is no sand drag strips to practice on buddy. your bike on asphalt would be a joke. a +14 on pavement you would need to sit on top of your tires. we do different type of racing as you know. my bike is not set up to go in a straight line only. i know with a stock swingarm and straps you cant get 100% power out the hole. i understand that you dont have to keep bringing that up because thats not what we are talking about. im talking about a +6 with a bar taking care of business. bro dont talk all this cool guy stuff about meet me in the middle. what about you come down here to the street and we race for $$$$$$$$$$$. what ever you wanna race for we will put out an extra $500 for the drive. come with that same set up you got and you driving. then you can make me understand about power like you say. big guy. you would get raped like a school girl.and no offense to 06banshee but im sure he hasnt raced another big motor down here yet so no one knows the capabilities of his bike yet. we just know its fast and built by a great mechanic. My bike is running way better numbers now then the cheetahs that were in 41st last weekend.Im not giving out numbers yet but it will beat almost every standup cub in miami the way things are going.And its rolling the last 60-70 feet because running out of gear.But were solving that problem when we go today and Im ready to see the numbers its going to put out.Ill tell you one thing Im not scared to line up my bike against any other standup in miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 its ok dajo you gonna be racing a typical miami 4mill you'll be ok with your 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Sorry, I'm not making a drive to FL. That would cost me over 1k in fuel... I was talking about meeting in the middle in KY. Little Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 And bring a +14 bike to miami and I will get you lined up dave.My boy(Also Nates Customer)Has a Cub similar to mine thats a sitdown bike thats pretty impressive :biggrin: Ask Nate.I wont say times or MPH.And No offense I think it will take a bit more than a 4mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 My bike is running way better numbers now then the cheetahs that were in 41st last weekend.Im not giving out numbers yet but it will beat almost every standup cub in miami the way things are going.And its rolling the last 60-70 feet because running out of gear.But were solving that problem when we go today and Im ready to see the numbers its going to put out.Ill tell you one thing Im not scared to line up my bike against any other standup in miami. im not doubting your bike one bit buddy trust me. i think your competition down here are you best enemies unless you go to labelle and race people from different parts of florida. you know and i know who think their the fastest shop in miami and im sure i dont have to name them for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQUIRREL MASTER Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 And bring a +14 bike to miami and I will get you lined up dave.My boy(Also Nates Customer)Has a Cub similar to mine thats a sitdown bike thats pretty impressive :biggrin: Ask Nate.I wont say times or MPH.And No offense I think it will take a bit more than a 4mill if the 4mill comment was towards me im completely aware of that. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 im not doubting your bike one bit buddy trust me. i think your competition down here are you best enemies unless you go to labelle and race people from different parts of florida. you know and i know who think their the fastest shop in miami and im sure i dont have to name them for you. I know who your talking about.Funny you bring that up.Im trying to race a 14mill Alky Super Cub.Ive been calling this punk bitch for the past 3 weeks calling him out.After he tried me when my bike was down.Now they dont wanna race.Their first excuse was My "Mechanic" said he will only run for 5gs.Now I told em Ill put the money up and now he wont answer his phone nomore.And hes one of the"Chosen" customers.And No offense Im not into the labell bullshit.Its all slow stock cylinder non override bikes.The street has like grass out of it.Ill stay to setting races up and going down in 41st. Looks like shit with no plastics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 know with a stock swingarm and straps you cant get 100% power out the hole. Drag racing is won getting off the line. Unless you're talking about a stock motor vs. a BIG motor. In that case...the guy on a stock motor would have to be an absolute fool to race a bigger motor. That is in fact my point. If I brought my bike down there with my arm and a wheelie bar, I would smoke you out of the hole so bad with a stock swinger and no bar you'd never catch up. Period. And yes I said with a bar...because that's how the real drag racers ride. I'd even let you put a bar on yours...with that short of a swinger, you'd hit the bar so hard you'd unload the tires.... I brought up 06 because I know of his motor builder, and he builds fine motors. I didn't want someone to pipe in saying...what, McCoy builds shit motors? NO...he does not. That is why I brought him up. As well as he races down there with you....so, that's the other reason I brought him up. I'm not driving to Florida, period. You won't ride sand....so, it's all BS from here. I can say bring 10K with you, come up here to MI and race in sand. It's the same as saying we can street race down in FL for $$$$$. A buck or a hundred of them, doesn't matter. It ain't going to happen. My bike is setup for Sand. And it's setup pretty damned good. Neither of us are going to change for the other, so it's keyboard racing from here on out. My bike is setup to go a straight line, yours isn't. Apples and oranges. My whole point is...find people that race pavement. Not your way (street racing) but the guys that actually do it at the track, legally...and have been for a while. They run longer arms, they run wheelie bars....period. If your way worked so good, why would they waste all their money chassis, wheelie bars, etc. I understand you street race...fine. I understand there's lies, deception, etc., Fine. I'm saying a properly setup pavement bike WITH a longer swingarm and bar will flat out eat yours up. There is no iffs, ands or butts about. Bro...I'm 250 lbs. Even If I got down to 200 lbs I'd look like an Ethiopian fighting over a piece of rice. I will never be a world record breaker on my bike. Guess what, many of the guys that build big bikes don't ride them. They let lighter...more often than not younger guys ride them. It's the ways things are done. Now for bracket racing, weight doesn't matter. Which is the only drag racing I'll have a legit shot at winning, consistency. And it takes just as much skill to be consistent on a good bike as it does to win a heads up race. I guess to answer the original poster's question....we need more info. Rider weight, desired type of riding, dune race, track race, pavement, sand, grass, ice, etc. Flat ground, hill shooting, etc. There is no set rule. What works for one guy on +4 might not work on the next guy's bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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