kawiking Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 travis... how do u really feel ??? lol.. :biggrin: that is true.... i did buy some 12 pad haulers and v frce reeds off planet sand yesterday... all i did is have the people e mail me. it does kind of suck with the search.. but i dont need the pm's ..i gots e-mail !!!!! :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Travis...I see your points. However... Banshee HQ has no where near the sponsor dollars poured in as PS does. HQ has always been free...people pay out of their own pockets on their own accord, it has never been forced on us, we've never been asked for a dime, nor has Lee ever said...ok, today this works, in a few weeks...it won't...unless you pay. I don't think it's about the money. I think for most people it's not... It's the fact that it's a change. For what has been free so long, now we'll be forced to pay for it. Travis, I'm in the IT business. I know how much servers cost, bandwidth costs, etc. The points they keep selling it on is the limited bandwidth and server space, which is BS. If Charlie needs to make money on his site because his other business isn't making any, or PS is taking up so much of his time...fine. Come out and say it. Don't post your phone number for people to call. When someone calls him, by the time that story is filtered down to 20 other people...none of the facts are straight anymore. Why not just post it ...so no one can misinterpret the facts. Here's what he needs to post. It's not only the server costs, bandwidth, software, etc., it's my personal time taking me away from my day to day business, and I feel the need to be compensated for that. Not get rich overnight, but be compensated. At the end of the day, everyone's time is worth money. I understand that. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I can tell you I've offered my help and Free documentation and software to help with pictures and server bandwidth. I sent a note to a few mods and even to Charlie himself. You think he took me up on that, gave it a second thought, etc.? No...not one single effort to even acknowledge my offer. Not even a thanks, but no thanks. But now server bandwidth, etc., are costing him so much money??? How about this. Give everyone search and PMs. Limit inbox to 25 messages per person, similar to what we do here. If they pay, increase that. Prune old members or non posting members. GET RID OF THE 1000 page long thread why I lost a star??? C'mon... Get rid of the shoutbox. Ask people to donate money, don't tell them they have to pay or else. There are plenty of other sites with 10X the member base, 10X the content and are still 100% free....and they still find a way to survive in today's world. I value PS very much. I appreciate it's content...and I've made a lot of good friends there. He tried the gustapo before. I agree, this time is much different. Although, despite multiple requests...he has not set a date for cutoff. Ask for money to help the site and to compensate him for his time, not force people to pay or use a lesser quality PS. That's just my take.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshee Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Im gonna throw my cents in, I have not read this whole post, so sorry if im out of line and off track... but if planetsand thinks im gonna pay 100 bucks so I can see someones profile search and send a pm that site can go fuck itself.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 travis... how do u really feel ??? lol.. :biggrin: that is true.... i did buy some 12 pad haulers and v frce reeds off planet sand yesterday... all i did is have the people e mail me. it does kind of suck with the search.. but i dont need the pm's ..i gots e-mail !!!!! :biggrin: You really don't want to me to get started, lol. I'm just sick of all the people whining and moaning about paying 15 fucking dollars a year to use a site that is extremely valuable. How many people blow several thousands of dollars on their bikes without thinking twice about it...and 15 bucks a year is too much. Give me a break Travis...I see your points. However...Banshee HQ has no where near the sponsor dollars poured in as PS does. HQ has always been free...people pay out of their own pockets on their own accord, it has never been forced on us, we've never been asked for a dime, nor has Lee ever said...ok, today this works, in a few weeks...it won't...unless you pay. I don't think it's about the money. I think for most people it's not... It's the fact that it's a change. For what has been free so long, now we'll be forced to pay for it. Travis, I'm in the IT business. I know how much servers cost, bandwidth costs, etc. The points they keep selling it on is the limited bandwidth and server space, which is BS. If Charlie needs to make money on his site because his other business isn't making any, or PS is taking up so much of his time...fine. Come out and say it. Don't post your phone number for people to call. When someone calls him, by the time that story is filtered down to 20 other people...none of the facts are straight anymore. Why not just post it ...so no one can misinterpret the facts. Here's what he needs to post. It's not only the server costs, bandwidth, software, etc., it's my personal time taking me away from my day to day business, and I feel the need to be compensated for that. Not get rich overnight, but be compensated. At the end of the day, everyone's time is worth money. I understand that. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I can tell you I've offered my help and Free documentation and software to help with pictures and server bandwidth. I sent a note to a few mods and even to Charlie himself. You think he took me up on that, gave it a second thought, etc.? No...not one single effort to even acknowledge my offer. Not even a thanks, but no thanks. But now server bandwidth, etc., are costing him so much money??? How about this. Give everyone search and PMs. Limit inbox to 25 messages per person, similar to what we do here. If they pay, increase that. Prune old members or non posting members. GET RID OF THE 1000 page long thread why I lost a star??? C'mon... Get rid of the shoutbox. Ask people to donate money, don't tell them they have to pay or else. There are plenty of other sites with 10X the member base, 10X the content and are still 100% free....and they still find a way to survive in today's world. I value PS very much. I appreciate it's content...and I've made a lot of good friends there. He tried the gustapo before. I agree, this time is much different. Although, despite multiple requests...he has not set a date for cutoff. Ask for money to help the site and to compensate him for his time, not force people to pay or use a lesser quality PS. That's just my take.... Dave, I'm not sure what to say, lol....I feel the site is valuable to me...well worth 15 bucks a year...I'm totally cool with spending the cash....if it's too much for you, I am sorry. :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Im gonna throw my cents in, I have not read this whole post, so sorry if im out of line and off track... but if planetsand thinks im gonna pay 100 bucks so I can see someones profile search and send a pm that site can go fuck itself.. It's 25 bucks a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I burn 25 bucks without thinking twice, haha, me too. I stopped calling htem bucks a long time ago because that term implies hard earned money. now I refer to them as fun tickets. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magz Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 haha, me too. I stopped calling htem bucks a long time ago because that term implies hard earned money. now I refer to them as fun tickets. :laugh: i usually pay 25 bucks to get to play with fun bags if that counts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'm sure I'm going to pay 25 a year, the site makes me money selling and buying parts. I just can't say I'm too happy about it. I can afford it...if I couldn't, I'm in the wrong sport...that's for sure. Once again, it's the method of delivery, I don't like to be force into it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawiking Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) haha, me too. I stopped calling htem bucks a long time ago because that term implies hard earned money. now I refer to them as fun tickets. :laugh: lol !!!!!!!!!!!! fun tickets !! im going to have to remember that !! here's something funny..... my wife asked me sun, if i spend about a grand a year on my banshee... :biggrin: i just walked away before i laughed in her face. shit... i spent 1500 two weeks ago and 400 yesterday. are u kidding me-- a grand a year ??? wtf. i spend that just getting everything ready for ls and about 2-3 days up there. she wants me to sell my kawi and get a 4by 4 so we all can ride, i say id sell it and go get a new rhino... she said nevermind and walked away.... i guess her driving around with my beer all day doesnt sound to fun. Edited March 4, 2008 by kawiking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Yeah, did my taxes last month and I itemize all my stuff I buy, luckily....my girl is very supportive of me and this sport, since she helped me organize receipts, etc... LOL... She did shake her head a few times, though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawiking Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) my wife saw my cub cylns the other day and asked me if they were new... i said hell no, they are my old ones.. i just pressure washed them off...lol !! i have a problem buying crap i dont need and she knows it. i have a whole garage full of e-bay crap i need to put back on e-bay.my wife knows what comes in those boxes from F.A.S.T. racing..... jeff won't be getting christmas cards from my wife, i promise. im the worst about finding a good deal.. i asked jeff what paddles i needed yesterday. he said 10 pad extremes would be pretty good, 20 min later i bought some 12 pad sls haulers-- good deal. thats just how i roll sometimes. o.. and planet sand, it does kind of suck u cant search. like somebody else said... a topic can go from the top of the page to 3-4 pages back in a couple of hrs. that tends to suck when u need to find something. Edited March 4, 2008 by kawiking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireroad Express Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 PS is an informative site. i enjoyed calvin's discussion on case pressures and effects of volume on cylinder filling/charging. alot of threads by some of the big players in the sport that are real interesting. they bring alot of knowledge and experience to the table. the dyno section is kinda cool too. the big part of PS for me though, is the classifieds.thats mostly all i go there for.i guess its what you get out of it that determines if you feel its worth paying for,so i'm not gonna whine if i can't access the site cause i didn't pay my $15 . don't go away mad just go away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPEN Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Sorry I got a little outta hand on my previous post... The nyquill made me do it.. :biggrin: Seriously though.. Even as over the line as my post was I think what this Ohton cat is doing is further.. I respect your opinion Travis.. You make valid points.. The cost that he is asking really isn't that much at all.. But like what others have mentioned, I think the way he has gone about it and what its for is wrong.. The fact that he tried this once before and flip flopped out of it, tells me he isn't hurtin as bad as he wants everyone to think.. Ill stay over here.. At home.. RIPPEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I put up a post on one of Charlie's i guess (Planetsand was the name) simply asking why the shoutbox and other amenities were still up on my screen (i haven't paid the subscription). I figured that it almost took up as much bandwidth to have it up there as to use it, correct? It was deleted probably 3 hours later, of course. I'm still not sure whether I'll pay the money or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty1100 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 If you're not into drag racing then you really would have no interest over there...half of you folks that are trashing the place don't even have an argument in this deal...just jumping on the bandwagon cause you think it's cool to bash PS, because HQ is soooo keewwwll cuz I can cuss and post vulgar pictures, and make worthless post after another asking the same freakin question...and we can verbally abuse each other over here...WOW!!! If you like Planet Suck my balls so much and have a problem with this site, then why do you even take the time to get on here and try to tell everyone what they should or shouldnt say and how to say it? Of course everyone wants somethin for free, what person doesnt. If someone gave you something you wouldnt take it? I think ya would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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