Pardee208 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 5 out of 10 kicks my kick starter wont enguage, is the gear bad? or the shaft that it rides on? any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcardracing Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 5 out of 10 kicks my kick starter wont enguage, is the gear bad? or the shaft that it rides on? any ideas? Best way to tell is to pull your clutch cover off and have a look. There is a helical splined shaft that moves the starter gear to the idler gear, this could be hanging up or like you said the gear teath may be worn. There are also bushings that your kicker shaft rides on and bearings that your idler gear rides on that could be worn causing clearance issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Id be willing to bet your idler gear bushing is shot, and has eaten your c-clip and washers that align the idler gear have either been eaten up by your clutch gear or they are on their way out along with the bushing. I've never seen a kicker gear go bad, but the idler gears go out a lot. You will have to pull your clutch cover off and remove the whole clutch to get to the idler gear. IF your idler gear bushing is gone then when your kicker gear slides out to engage its just going to push your idler gear sideways or kick it out at an angle. I've also seen cases crack where the kicker module slides into the case and throws all the alignment out of whack. This can be fixed with some welding and a machine shop though. Either way, your probably looking at popping off your clutch cover and checking everything. Get a clymer manual and it will help you out a lot. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcardracing Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Id be willing to bet your idler gear bushing is shot, and has eaten your c-clip and washers that align the idler gear have either been eaten up by your clutch gear or they are on their way out along with the bushing. I've never seen a kicker gear go bad, but the idler gears go out a lot. You will have to pull your clutch cover off and remove the whole clutch to get to the idler gear. IF your idler gear bushing is gone then when your kicker gear slides out to engage its just going to push your idler gear sideways or kick it out at an angle. I've also seen cases crack where the kicker module slides into the case and throws all the alignment out of whack. This can be fixed with some welding and a machine shop though. Either way, your probably looking at popping off your clutch cover and checking everything. Get a clymer manual and it will help you out a lot. - Jared I've seen one instance where the kicker teeth were !@#$ed, the kid had tried to kick it over while it was still running and chunked out the idler and starter gear on a few teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 5 out of 10 kicks my kick starter wont enguage, is the gear bad? or the shaft that it rides on? any ideas? You could have had a gear take a dump or the spring that controls the gears runout break......... You have to take the clutch cover off to know for sure. :geek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pardee208 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I have had it apart alot of times before. the case is not cracked. the only thing that i notice is the kicker gear has notches on the side that it mates with the clutch gear, but that is on every tooth. so i assume its suppost to be that way? and the gear itself is somewhat wabbly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthemail Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 my gear is also wobbly. go here. www.farmandsandtoys.com buy a replacement idler gear bushing (take a pic of your gear if you can ill show you mine which is fine for comparison purposes) your gonna want to look over all your parts closely, clean them all. reassemble the kicker assembly and make sure it functions proper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I have had it apart alot of times before. the case is not cracked. the only thing that i notice is the kicker gear has notches on the side that it mates with the clutch gear, but that is on every tooth. so i assume its suppost to be that way? and the gear itself is somewhat wabbly The nylon bushing on in the kickstart gear cluster sounds like it is porbably shot. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pardee208 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I will tackle that after i get out of work tonight, and ill post a pic of the bushing. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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