bansheejoel Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 i looked on the site but couldnt find much so i figured id ask about the pancake bearing so i and other people wondering could learn a lil more about them.....are they worth the time and money and do they actually work, also is it a must for a light modded engine? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave I. Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 If you are going to replace your clutch, shift star or have the clutch cover off for any reason it would be a good time to put it in. Needed, no. Cheap insurance, yes. Jeff at fast has them for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheejoel Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshee Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I like the cascade ones with the allen head clutch adjuster. Gets rid of the pos stock adjuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheejoel Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 so is it a decent amount of work or a pretty easy upgrade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrmel Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 its easy. you take the clutch cover off. take the 5 pressure plate bolts and springs off. the pressure plate falls off. take the stock adjuster off and put the pancake adjuster on in its place. i think a pancake bearing is worth it on any banshee motor, even 100% stock. this is because motor mods dont effect the reliability of the clutch ball and shaft. the only thing that effects that is the clutch springs and how long you squeeze the clutch in while the motor is running. WHILE YOU ARE IN THERE. grab a set of hd clutch springs. run 3 hd or run all 6 hd. makes the clutch grab batter and the clutch will last longer. mod the shift star. makes shifting a lot easier. this one is pretty easy to do. just need a 32mm impact wrench and a few hand tools. install a billet impeller. the stock impeller has been known to crack, break or delaminate from the shaft. nothing runis a motor quicker than a broken impeller. well besides running straight gas. check the condition of the clutch discs and plates and replace as nessassary. if you run hd springs it will keep the clutch from slipping and wearing out. if you havent put springs in yet nows the time to check the current setup and see if anything needs replacing. those are my 'to do" list of things for inside the banshee clutch cover. all banshees can benefit from these mods. none of these mods improve performance. they are all for improving rideability or durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 if you have a hinson pressure plate the screw that comes with it will not be long enough. if you buy the cascade pancake let me know i have spare allenhead screws that will fit. i dont like the phillips head becasue they strip out too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 I like the cascade one too because it has 2 flat sides out on the end so you can adjust the clutch like normal. VS the one that have the flat spot behine the pressure plate where you have to adjust the clutch and take it all appart so you can tighten down the adjuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheejoel Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks for all of your input guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00shee00 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Any pic's on a motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 There isnt really much to see. All you can see is the outer nut because the main part is behind the clutch pressure plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfoot350 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Just run two quarts of oil when you change it. Thats what I was told by rudy kurtz and I have been doing it since 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you ride your banshee right you dont need to do anything, but who does that. 2 quarts of oil will help but it wont replace was a flat roller berring can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Just run two quarts of oil when you change it. Thats what I was told by rudy kurtz and I have been doing it since 2000 u dont need 2 quarts for a pancake, you need two quarts for a lockup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthemail Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 i dont like the phillips head becasue they strip out too easy "impact screwdriver" 2 words, worth its weight in gold. anyway, the cascade one is good but truthfully, you can get that phillips screw matched up to an allen head for about $1 at a hardware store. if you have no luck let me know we have this ancient family buisness called e lynds enterprise where im from and they are going to boltmatch every fastener on my cases to allens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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