streetshee Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 boost bottle? dont own one m8,there a load of bollocks,but i bet u run one eh? u say ur givving me the answer? rubbish ur givving me your opinionthats all,who do u think u are? i dont think you know jack shit off paper,yeh u got the gift of the gab but thats it,i know lots of people like you that know everything from books but give them a spanner and there stumpt.dicksplash. you speak from the bum m8. it cant be that hard to understand that it will spin better ballanced as will the rest of the motor,u watch your paint dry and hopefully u will inhale some fumes and see the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Your level of stupidity and non-comprehension is totally beyond me. Look at the bike in my sig. I own it. I built it. And yes...that's a picture of me riding it down the track. And yes...it does have a lockup. DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF FUCKING PAPER TO YOU? Do you think I built it overnight? Do you think I've broke enough bikes to figure out what works, what doesn't, how to fix something, how to make it better....how to keep it reliable? No one just jumps onto a drag bike and rides off into the sunset. It's a learning curve based on input from others that have been there before you....and your own experiences. You don't seem to grasp that concept. Why don't you do a search on here of boost bottles, you can get my feelings on them from there. Boost bottles work in theory...just like balancing your clutch. I suggest you go out and buy one.... Wait a minute.... You're saying boost bottles are no good, but balancing your lockout is.... Yeah, here's your sign buddy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) I just went to type my post.. but looks like everyone has already said what I wanted too... I guess you should call "Stan the Man" and see what he says! :shoothead: Edited January 16, 2008 by Fouledout421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ok.... now that we have woved past the face this assclown has always had his meek little mind set on balancing........ Let me ask exactly how are you going to accomplish this???? There is a lot more to balancing than simply taking material off... You have a pivot point and even if you take material off the same spot on each arm they will now react differently when spun. Follow me. or have I lost you junior?????? They all weigh different amounts, so you will be taking different amounts of material off the same spot on each individual arm. This will in fact make them react differently when spun..... so one will apply more force than the other. This is a futile effort!!!! I know that the lockup that I had an effort in testing and designing, the arms were laser cut. Even with being laser cut there were still minor differences in each arm. It was just something that had to be lived with. There was just no practical way to balance (as you put it) each individual arm. Unless customers were to want to pay the extra labor it would cost to do this process. That is first hand knowledge.... do you understand junior????? FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ok.... now that we have woved past the face this assclown has always had his meek little mind set on balancing........ Let me ask exactly how are you going to accomplish this???? There is a lot more to balancing than simply taking material off... You have a pivot point and even if you take material off the same spot on each arm they will now react differently when spun. Follow me. or have I lost you junior?????? They all weigh different amounts, so you will be taking different amounts of material off the same spot on each individual arm. This will in fact make them react differently when spun..... so one will apply more force than the other. This is a futile effort!!!! I know that the lockup that I had an effort in testing and designing, the arms were laser cut. Even with being laser cut there were still minor differences in each arm. It was just something that had to be lived with. There was just no practical way to balance (as you put it) each individual arm. Unless customers were to want to pay the extra labor it would cost to do this process. That is first hand knowledge.... do you understand junior????? FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE!!!! Hmmm....sounds like paper knowledge and hearsay... :whistling: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetshee Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ok.... now that we have woved past the face this assclown has always had his meek little mind set on balancing........ Let me ask exactly how are you going to accomplish this???? There is a lot more to balancing than simply taking material off... You have a pivot point and even if you take material off the same spot on each arm they will now react differently when spun. Follow me. or have I lost you junior?????? They all weigh different amounts, so you will be taking different amounts of material off the same spot on each individual arm. This will in fact make them react differently when spun..... so one will apply more force than the other. This is a futile effort!!!! I know that the lockup that I had an effort in testing and designing, the arms were laser cut. Even with being laser cut there were still minor differences in each arm. It was just something that had to be lived with. There was just no practical way to balance (as you put it) each individual arm. Unless customers were to want to pay the extra labor it would cost to do this process. That is first hand knowledge.... do you understand junior????? FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE!!!! your such a twat,its simple you take the weight off the bolt,its got nothing to do with modding the laser cut lugs,but i suppose thats too hard for you to figure out?why are you lot such pricks eh? fuckoff the lot of you. ausgermergltedarschfotzen. u know fuckall.junior? what the fcuk u onabout ?im off to balance my clutch goodbye knobheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yeah, you've said you're going to go balance it 3 times now. What are you waiting on? Go do it.... Stop wasting your valuable time, you could be perfecting your lockup... Balance, Danielsan....must first learn balance.... Wax on, Wax off.... Remember, Karate here...never here....... Crain technique... If done right, no can defend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoholbanshee Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 your such a twat,its simple you take the weight off the bolt,its got nothing to do with modding the laser cut lugs,but i suppose thats too hard for you to figure out?why are you lot such pricks eh? fuckoff the lot of you. ausgermergltedarschfotzen. u know fuckall.junior? what the fcuk u onabout ?im off to balance my clutch goodbye knobheads. So by taking the weight off the bolts you are now not applying the same amount of downforce to each individual finger at the pressuse plate. Do you see a problem with that????? The rest of us do!!!!!!!! Streetshee the retard had an 8 pound waterhead.....He was 5 foot 3 and he said to me...... I like Tator tots!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBansheeMan Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 "We got one guy that came here to ask a question who already had it made up in his mind what he was going to do. So...stop reading this post, stop telling us...after YOU asked the question, why you're right and we're wrong....and go do it. Then bring us back all your proof as to how you're right...we'll be right here waiting....and waiting.... The other guy is just stating theory based on his lab environment....but does not have actual experience with said device. People have told him the engine as a whole is a mis-balanced NON-perfect rotating assembly, to try and perfect every gram of that is worthless and pointless. You will see NO results or benefits....period. And everyone is saying the same thing...and we can all read just fine. PLEASE....GO BALANCE your clutch. Don't post anymore....don't waste your breath...you have a time consuming important mission ahead of you. Balancing your lockout down to the tenth of a gram. Then please post back your ground breaking results....we're all breathless with anticipation." I have SAID "You will see no Gain" its just a project. He has time I gave my .02 that it nothing more. I never said I was the Ultimate truth on this subject. I just made my point, Not to say Its the only way, Just as an Idea. I never knew that voicing my .02 would cause such a shit storm! Wow chill out guys there will be 1000's of different ideas of what works and what dont. I have no quarrel with anyone here we all have our ideas and I suport each and everyone. DAJ: Sorry I took it to the Fam. But the rest I still stand behind, its just my idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 "We got one guy that came here to ask a question who already had it made up in his mind what he was going to do.So...stop reading this post, stop telling us...after YOU asked the question, why you're right and we're wrong....and go do it. Then bring us back all your proof as to how you're right...we'll be right here waiting....and waiting.... The other guy is just stating theory based on his lab environment....but does not have actual experience with said device. People have told him the engine as a whole is a mis-balanced NON-perfect rotating assembly, to try and perfect every gram of that is worthless and pointless. You will see NO results or benefits....period. And everyone is saying the same thing...and we can all read just fine. PLEASE....GO BALANCE your clutch. Don't post anymore....don't waste your breath...you have a time consuming important mission ahead of you. Balancing your lockout down to the tenth of a gram. Then please post back your ground breaking results....we're all breathless with anticipation." I have SAID "You will see no Gain" its just a project. He has time I gave my .02 that it nothing more. I never said I was the Ultimate truth on this subject. I just made my point, Not to say Its the only way, Just as an Idea. I never knew that voicing my .02 would cause such a shit storm! Wow chill out guys there will be 1000's of different ideas of what works and what dont. I have no quarrel with anyone here we all have our ideas and I suport each and everyone. DAJ: Sorry I took it to the Fam. But the rest I still stand behind, its just my idea. Fair enough....you won't see any gain, performance or otherwise was my whole point all along... He can balance till he's blue in the face, but I think he's wasting time if he's looking for actual gain...performance or longevity.... That's all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBansheeMan Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Agreed, But it will keep him very busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 every possible thing you can "balance".... should be. The banshee isn't THAT bad. Shee is a pretty stout little zinger. I wouldn't say that it's a lambo quality, but it's a great motor. mine runs smooth as a babys ass, no vibes until it gets under 2k rpm Is that a fucking shot at me? All I said is the truth More balance = More bite. I am a QA/QC inspector I do know a few things in life. If the shee is sooooo out of balance why Tru and weld a crank? or grain match pistons... The list goes on and on, all I am saying is COMMON KNOWLAGE something wobbling out of rotation will not bite as fully as a well balanced ANYTHING! And for the OIL you speak of, It is a common density not thicker and heaver in one spot and lighter and less Viscous in the next. Assuming the weights are of the same size and shape each will pickup and sling or slosh the exact same as the next. This is drag And yes the weights also make drag but is centrically applied due to spinning of the clutch, The oil drags in a linear motion due to the fact that it sit still. Even though they are both drag Its like APPLES to ORANGES. And dont take shots because I dont have a Lock up! I got other shit like a Degree. hahahaha I couldn't even get to page 3 before I had to post on this one. :yelrotflmao: well said QC guy! It seems there are more than a few puffer fish here on the HQ, who don't care about respect or anyone elses opinion. They would rather post like a 2nd grader and get all pissy. See the places I spend my time on the internet have good people who know when and when not to open their mouth. Believe it or not the HQ isn't one of those places. albiet this site rocks because it's the only BANSHEE ONLY place on the web.... which is cool. But the guys here only like insiders and don't value outsiders opinions until you have been let into the "clique".... well I have to say that's just bullshit. Everyone is created equal.... but some people don't know what that means. Just too much horn tooting around here for me alot of the time. bottom line..... JUST KEEP IN BUSINESS IF YOU FEEL LIKE BEING A DICK.....PLEASE. :biggrin: pissing matches are just boring to read man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 wow that one sure took a turn into nowhere land....lol I say within a tenth is fine.... yes it's not perfect. But I bet the plates aren't perfectly lined up and centered either. That why the clutch isn't on a needle bearing. Journal bearings are much better for things like this because of problems like out of round plates and poor castings... blah blah Don't worry about it. Spend your time on something else bro. Like the crank.... or tires. balanced tires gave me about 5mph topend. felt nice to ride too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wow....thanks from us puffer fish... We appreciate your co-signing....in the very next post!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&B Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I agree to a point, but I bet the out of balance from your crank, sprockets, gears, tires, etc., play a 100% bigger role than a few tenths of a gram on a lockout....now measure the drag co-efficient of the gear oil that each finger on the lockup is slinging, suddenly those little bits of weight really are insignificant.... Unless you can somehow manage how much tranny fluid each individual lockup finger slings....down the the grams you're worried about... Not trying to sound like a smart ass, rather give you the 10,000 foot view of understanding.... LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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