Ride-Red Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 . the illegal immagrent DO infact have benifit GREATLY from the programs setup. The health care is provided for FREE!!!! we pickup the tax. No sh!t, but sorry to tell you- they did not vote in the laws to get these handouts, they did not find a loop hole, and we are entitled to do the same exact thing. We voted the laws, we give the handout. No different then walking into a restaraunt and the waitress says no charge- don't tell me you wouldn't accept- and don't tell me it's your fault you got a free lunch -now is it. We are the problem. And think of the reprocussions from not providing coverage for impovershed people. Babies dying in our streets, disease. The should suffer because they were born in an unfair country, where's the humanity in that? We were past this at the fourth President. . as for the "Gov handouts are nothing short of Federal Suppression" bullshit! tell that to Shaniqua thats driving the BMW or Escalade to the grocery store and buying her food with foodstamps. that doesnt sound like "Federal Suppression" to me. Sure does to me- how many of them do you compete against for a job and how mwny live on your street? How many can move to your street or anywhere like your street? That's suppression at it's finest. and YES we did win the land in a war. its funny that he posted that becasue i thought of it after posting but didnt edit it. so to say Saddam did nothing wrong blah blah blah, guess what we arnt fighting to win his land. we are fighting because is ties to terrorists. when its finally said and done guess who is keeping the land... not the U.S. We did the same thing to the Mexicans and Indians- we used terrorist tactics, we killed women and childred. We were the ones that scalped them- how sick is that? Hunting races to extinctions and the terrified subserviant ones stuffed in reservations, while the rest ran for Mexico. Long and short- they deserve the same rights as anyone who made it to American soil. It's our job to teach them to be Americans. The degrading dehuminization we're giving them right now would leave a bad taste in your mouth if you had to indure it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-Red Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Well debating on whether or not sadam did something wrong would depend on your view point. He did attack our country, but not to gain land in an actual struggle for land or goods. He did it to damage, and cheap shot america, because he thinks that american people are scum. Then we reacted back, and we are trying to neaturalize the terrorist threat. We didnt just sneak up on the mexicans and rope off a portion of their land. And i may be wrong... but didnt we end up paying mexico for the land that we won from them? The US, is not trying to take over some of the countries in the mid east so that we can branch out and make a sub division of the united states, so you cant even really compaire what is happening between the two. :geek: They attacked us just to kill people, so i guess were doing the same... But the thing is that our "intent" is not to kill civilians... and theirs was to kill anyone. I dont see any taking of land here... Saddam never attacked us- that was Bin Laden a Saudie Arabian. Yet we attacked afganistan? We got in the middle of a holy war once to often since we helped establish Israel. Are they not allowed to have wars and kill in the name of there God- yet we do? We are as much of the problem as they are- not saying wrong or right, it's a cruel world and everyone has there fair share of guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBansheeMan Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 . the illegal immagrent DO infact have benifit GREATLY from the programs setup. The health care is provided for FREE!!!! we pickup the tax. No sh!t, but sorry to tell you- they did not vote in the laws to get these handouts, they did not find a loop hole, and we are entitled to do the same exact thing. We voted the laws, we give the handout. No different then walking into a restaraunt and the waitress says no charge- don't tell me you wouldn't accept- and don't tell me it's your fault you got a free lunch -now is it. We are the problem. And think of the reprocussions from not providing coverage for impovershed people. Babies dying in our streets, disease. The should suffer because they were born in an unfair country, where's the humanity in that? We were past this at the fourth President. You might have voted for that SHIT!!!! liberal piece of shit! Grow a pair and defend what our Fellow man has DIED to earn. Pussy's like you make it a hard place to defend with suck PRIDE!!! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-Red Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 . the illegal immagrent DO infact have benifit GREATLY from the programs setup. The health care is provided for FREE!!!! we pickup the tax. No sh!t, but sorry to tell you- they did not vote in the laws to get these handouts, they did not find a loop hole, and we are entitled to do the same exact thing. We voted the laws, we give the handout. No different then walking into a restaraunt and the waitress says no charge- don't tell me you wouldn't accept- and don't tell me it's your fault you got a free lunch -now is it. We are the problem. And think of the reprocussions from not providing coverage for impovershed people. Babies dying in our streets, disease. The should suffer because they were born in an unfair country, where's the humanity in that? We were past this at the fourth President. You might have voted for that SHIT!!!! liberal piece of shit! Grow a pair and defend what our Fellow man has DIED to earn. Pussy's like you make it a hard place to defend with suck PRIDE!!! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!! I'm the farthest thing from liberal, and the last thing I voted for is free handouts. If you take the time to read what I wrote instead of stewing in your ignorant bias- you'll see I don't support it. What I support is reform in our country, and legalization. They should not be punished for our mistakes, but they should have to live like Americans if they want to stay here. We do not give them that option at this point. Don't give me that fellow man has died to earn bullsh!t either, are you so stupid you think hispanics have not died in wars defending America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 red i can tell that your an ignorant liberal and it wont matter what is said because your a bleeding heart for the sadists. but guess what stud. when your not born into a country that fought to get the stature where we are and gain the power and the rights. then NO you dont get those right. why the fuk is it the americans job to take care of a country that wasnt either strong enough , dedicated enough, or just plain ass didnt care enough to make these same freedoms for its civilians. AMERICANS have dide making this country able to offer what it does... NOT mexicans. how the fuk can you say they didnt find a loop hole? thats exactly what they did. the mexican gov. has been caught hadingout pamphlets showing where the easiest crossing into america are at. and how to establish free handouts once they get here. so yes they did find a loophole. we sure as fuk didnt go to the border and tell them about it. so your saying that a woman becoes pregnant in mexico holds the baby in her stomach for 9 months then hops the fence and goes to an er and gives birth that her kid should become a us citizn and now her family is allowed to move here? FUK THAT! like iv said from the get go. if you want to make a better life for your family, GREAT DO IT LEGALLY. fillout the papers and show that your an assett to society not a menace. and we helped establish Israel? thats new to me, last time i checked they were mandated by the British until the 40's. Did we help make there new constitution? yes. but establish Israel? no. they were an established nation well before we stepped in. just one that was dictated. You say they should not be punished for our mistakes. guess what jumping the fence and entering the U.S. is against the law... what mistake is there on our part? i guess not making the fence tall enough? many of them drink and drive. guess what its illegal.. and they dont belong here in the first place. so what mistakes is it your taling about? is it illegal for them to get the handouts that stupid polititions setup? no, but they sure as fuk dont deserve it. they didnt do anything to earn it or to help it grow for others to use. hispanics died to defend america... but guess what they where AMERICANS .. NOT MEXICANS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBansheeMan Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) I have yet to hear 1 illegal (is not just mexicans its all of them, YOU BIGGOT) say I came here for my fallen father. They all come for WORK! Right? Man just take your "LET THEM STAY" attitude and get out! AMERICA is better without you Edited November 20, 2007 by TexasBansheeMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Saddam never attacked us- that was Bin Laden a Saudie Arabian. Yet we attacked afganistan? We got in the middle of a holy war once to often since we helped establish Israel. Are they not allowed to have wars and kill in the name of there God- yet we do? We are as much of the problem as they are- not saying wrong or right, it's a cruel world and everyone has there fair share of guilt. Ride-Red, I don't agree with your views on illegal immigrants at all, but Im 100% behind the statement I have you quoted about Saddam and Bin Laden. And I gotta laugh at people calling you a "liberal". Im a life long republican with old school conservative values that despises the neo-con ideals of the current so-called republicans, and these neo-con's have the sheep brainwashed to call anyone who opposes them a "liberal". Iv been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-Red Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) My views of immagrants are not as pronounced as I lead them on to be, but you have to draw a line and stand by It. I think building hatred and making them less human than we view ourselves is retarded, just because of the situation Our Government has let us get into. I also can't think of one military enforced or naturally imposed border ever working. A matter of fact- everone one I can think of ended and fell in blood shed, hatred and lives lost. Berlin Wall, Great wall of China, Iron Curtin. Any border with an imposed wall instanly leads to hate and war. Once the wall goes up- did any of you aholes ever think what happens. No more one way border- we can't go to Mexico freely we won't be allowed in the rest of the Americas as well. Mexicans are definatly going to hate americans, Central and South America will follow suit- the wall is also meant for them. How can you also tell me it's good judgement to invest billions to build up a border and billions a year to maintain it enough to stop the immigration flow, just to have the majority of the world hate us for it. Rather then help the ones that get by, naturalize them, let them pay into society and give a return on our investment? Edited December 1, 2007 by Ride-Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 America's doors are always open, but you need to knock on the door before you come in. this is what has been said from the get go, I'm not opposed to mexicans coming here LEGALLY to work, but to say that the illegals that are here deserve to become legalized is absurd! thats letting them get a jump start on breaking the law and saying its ok cause your just trying to improve your life. there are too many illegal imagrants and not only from mexico that come here and exploit the system. become legal, pay taxes, and become an assest to our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 QUOTE(Meat @ Dec 1 2007, 10:20 AM) America's doors are always open, but you need to knock on the door before you come in. :biggrin: thats a pretty good line huh, I thought of that one all by myself :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-Red Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 You all think it's so easy to secure a boarder- well here- try it yourselves! http://www.resist.com/racistgames/playbord...orderpatrol.htm After your done hit the back button for more :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 You all think it's so easy to secure a boarder- well here- try it yourselves! http://www.resist.com/racistgames/playbord...orderpatrol.htm After your done hit the back button for more :biggrin: HAHAH thats funny. I wonder who ha the time to sit and make games like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-Red Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think NYUK likes the hunting game- but misses on purpose :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I dunno, about get out. How about we hunt them like varmint. No season, just wanton violence. Haha. But seriously, .300 Win Mags, night scopes and a few dozen boxes of brass. I don't want to kill them all, just enough to make them think twice about jumping. And then eventually get to the ones already here. Not just mexicans, but the ones off the boats too. No need to be racist, get 'em all. Blacks, Whites, green, spotted, I dont give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 My view is this...(can't say I read all the posts in this forum...though) If you want a better life for yourself, come to the USA. That's how our country was founded, period. However, once you're here, chip in, get a job, pay taxes...stop asking for handouts and abusing the system. Welfare is a great system, the problem is that system is manipulated and abused. If you are disabled, injured, (and I'm talking genuine injury or disability....having 8 kids by 5 different baby daddy's does NOT qualify) then fine, this country will help you the best we can. You guys watch Million Dollar Baby? Her mom, typical scum bag loser. Is given a house her daughter worked so hard for...and what's the first thing she says? What am I going to do without my welfare? How am I going to live? If you have a brain that works, limbs that function, get a job. Our Nation as a whole will prosper from the labor force and taxes paid into the system, instead of it getting sucked out of the system for illegals or people abusing the system. Don't tell me that the wages Burger King and Mickey D's doesn't pay enough to support your lifestyle. Do you think successful people started at the top? No...many started at the basement bottom and through hard work and innovative ideas and practices they became successful. I don't care what color, race, religion, sex or creed you are...there are plenty of abusers and criminals in all of those categories... Makes me sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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