mr331 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Well, I'm getting ready for Sand Mountain, NV. I'm not in my usual routine of repair or prep due to the fact I just got a new (used) toy hauler. Today I fianally got the trailer set up and went to work on the quads. I draine the oil on the Banshee and found a little chuck of metal. When I put the magnetic plug back up to the hole after draing and found the larger 2nd piece. Can some one tell me where this would have fallen off? At this point I'm just out of time to tear down so I will just leave it home unless I can figure it out before Thur. Thanks for and help you can provide, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh88 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Man. I could swear I've seen something like that before but I have no idea where it came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoostRocket Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Man. I could swear I've seen something like that before but I have no idea where it came from. that is the clip that holds the plastic gear on the impellar. pretty sure anyways. ill measure mine if i can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbanshee8 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) I just looked in my manual, and it can't be off of the kick start idler gear, because that part is a snap ring. The water pump has an E-clip that goes on the end of the shaft, that holds the gear on, and that's where it must have came from. Edited October 22, 2007 by fastbanshee8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr331 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 It looks like the C-clip off of the end of the kick-start idler gear, and I wouldn't run it like that, unless you want your bottom end, and cases destroyed. No way I'm gonna run it. I'm just worried about how long it was there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUK Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 it is the c clip that holds your shift fork rods in the cases.they are directly in the oil bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastrthnu Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 it is the c clip that holds your shift fork rods in the cases.they are directly in the oil bath. either one of 2 of what nyuk said, or the clip for the water impeller. Most likelly from the shift fork rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbanshee8 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 No way I'm gonna run it. I'm just worried about how long it was there! It can't be off of the idler gear, unless someone replaced it with the E-clip, because the manual shows a snap ring, and after I typed that, I remembered replacing mine, and it was a snap ring. It's got to be off of the water pump shaft, or, it's off of one of the shift fork shafts. So far, the only E-clips in the bottom end that I've found in the Clymer's are on the shift shafts, and the water pump shaft. Hopefully it's off of the water pump shaft, so it's an easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTOYS Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 NYUK nailed it on the head!!! Should be from the shift fork rods. Not telling you what to do but i know of several racers that dont even run them... I run them but have seen some that didnt. The only thing you would have to consider is IF the alum. plugs came out of the left side case by the sprocket and the rods slid out. Highly unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUK Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 NYUK nailed it on the head!!! Should be from the shift fork rods. Not telling you what to do but i know of several racers that dont even run them...I run them but have seen some that didnt. The only thing you would have to consider is IF the alum. plugs came out of the left side case by the sprocket and the rods slid out. Highly unlikely. the last bike i took apart was running like a bear. it was missing them clips.i doubt it will hurt anything.but tearing it down just to put that back is a major operation.if you are skeeeeeeered. and unported, now would be a good time to send your jugs off and put that clip back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) there is 3 total e-clips in a banshee motor. 1 on the water pump gear, I think the one on the kick starter gear is a snap ring, and 2 on the transmission shift fork shafts. Pull the clutch cover, if you dont find it missing off the kicker or the wp.......well then its time to split the cases. I may be wrong on the wp gear, but I know the fork shafts have e-clips. Edited October 22, 2007 by Snopczynski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr331 Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I just took off the clutch cover. It's not the water pump clip....it is still in place. The more I looked at it, the more I "think" the pump clip could not make it to the drain side due to its size I'm gonna get a new billet impeller and an ez-drain cover. I'm gonna take it on my trip. I was only looking to get 1 more weekend out of it before I started a ground up rebuild. At this point it's not my primary quad but I can't wait till it is. Thanks to all the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekker Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Like Jeff Said Its off the rods that holds the shift forks. I have been running without them all summer. No problems what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 there is 3 total e-clips in a banshee motor. 1 on the water pump gear, I think the one on the kick starter gear is a snap ring, and 2 on the transmission shift fork shafts. Pull the clutch cover, if you dont find it missing off the kicker or the wp.......well then its time to split the cases. I may be wrong on the wp gear, but I know the fork shafts have e-clips. There are three e-clips in the engine. :geek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Like Jeff Said Its off the rods that holds the shift forks. I have been running without them all summer. No problems what so ever. I would consider fixing that........if you are making a reasonable amount of power with your engine, it ought to be pretty easy to push down in first gear when down shiftin and send the corresponding shift fork through the side of your case. In a worst case scenario, running all summer without the clips probably means that your top case will be headed for the recycle bin when you finally take the engine apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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