blowit Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 simply watch the caster inclination during install. One way will be way off from the normal 1-2degrees of positive inclination. You should never have negative caster or instability will result. The shocks must mount vertically as well. Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dgrey Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I have not started working on it yet and my shocks wont come until like next thursday. What im now wondering what someone said about the jam nuts on the upper and lower OUTER heim joings... I think those are supposed to be on there BECAUSE the package I got has the brake line clamps and 4 large jam-looking nuts. I think I am supposed to put those on all four outer heims... Anyone???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko2000 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 okay guys know im real confused..so i guess that i have mine on wrong.. but my shocks fit, I think when i had it the other way I couldnt get my shock on..... ahhh I dont know, guess im gonna have to play with it know..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterlocal22 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Damn that's messed up, when I was installing mine I talked to ASR on the phone and he told me the side with the larger curve faces the rear of the bike. Now I don't know what the hell to do, I had my shit already on and adjusted, hope I don't have to rip it apart. Hey when you get your shocks on could you post a few pics., I want to see how much the shock clears the rear of the upper arm, Thanks I agree with banshee 79, if you could check the a arm how you have them in the pics and slap some shocks on to see if they clear that would be really helpfull. The reason why is because Im pretty sure you want the curved part in the back. I just looked at my bike and if i switched them the other way then my wheels would sit at -1 instead of +1. Look in your pics were the a arm bolts intothe wheel. if you reversed with the bend in the back the bolt would move forward right? Let us know how it works out. Thanks peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dgrey Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I bolted the shock up to the bike with the bend going forward. The arms clear the shock. Dang - why does no one know how the upper arm goes on? No one here has instructions? Why have 2 people heard 2 different things from the same company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dgrey Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I searched and can not find pictures of anyones ASR arms installed correctly. I went to their website and in the displays that they have (if the are side correct in the pictures) they have them laid out on the right and left with the bend going inwards. WTF This sucks. Look at the pics Bend on the inside???!? http://www.amstarmanufacturing.com/LongTravelA-Arms.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayzx10r Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Let me add my $.02. Even though I run Lonestar +2+1s, the end result should be the same between our different brands of arms. When I stand in front of the wheel facing the the back of my "shee, I look straight down at the suspension and see that the upper ball joint is more rearward relative to the lower ball joint. I'm thinking that if you had it the other way, steering wouldn't return to center when you let go of the bars... You will need one of these to adjust your front end. Angle Finder $5.99 at Harbor Freight. There is one on Main St, El Cajon...near your place. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/disp...temnumber=34214 Here is a link to the Lonestar adjustment page. If you have a +2+1 setup, the spec should be relevant. If not, the description of terms will still be valid. http://www.lsracing.com/img/Guide_21.pdf Hope this helps you out...you gotta have that gauge!! Jay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 79 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I bolted the shock up to the bike with the bend going forward. The arms clear the shock. Dang - why does no one know how the upper arm goes on? No one here has instructions? Why have 2 people heard 2 different things from the same company. I have the instructions that came with the arms but there pretty shitty, it doesn't mention anything about what arm goes where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 79 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I have not started working on it yet and my shocks wont come until like next thursday. What im now wondering what someone said about the jam nuts on the upper and lower OUTER heim joings... I think those are supposed to be on there BECAUSE the package I got has the brake line clamps and 4 large jam-looking nuts. I think I am supposed to put those on all four outer heims... Anyone???? Yea you definitely need the four jam nuts on the outboard heim's I know that for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishwater Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Well trust me, I removed mine this morning & tried to swap them around so the loop was facing rearward, it would not & could not work. With the loop facing forward it works & the shock has about a quarter inch of space before the arm. My upper ball joint is also slightly behind my lower ball joint, possibly an inch. Mine are installed correctly as far as I am concerned. I think you should just take the upper arms off & check, it took me less than 20 minutes to do the swap. Save yourself some time & do not remove the shock, just pull the upper arm off & see if it fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 79 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here's some pics. from there old website of some 400EX arms, the loop is towards the rear, but I don't if there different than the banshees or not. You would think the directions would show what arm goes where but they don't. http://www.quadpartsguy.com/images/DSC00407.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 79 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here's some pics. of mine with the hoop towards the rear, it has about 1/8-1/4 inch clearance from the shock at 7 degrees positive caster, so they will go that way, but I have no idea if that's the correct way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Here's some pics. of mine with the hoop towards the rear, it has about 1/8-1/4 inch clearance from the shock at 7 degrees positive caster, so they will go that way, but I have no idea if that's the correct way. If you were to install the top arm on the other side, the end result would be like 20 degrees more caster. The key here guys is "caster". Measure it and it will lead you right to how the arms should be installed. Remember, negative camber should be avoided. Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko2000 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Ok I have mine on the same as banshee79.. I also have about 1/2 space between the a-arm and the shock... After reading all of this I went down into my basement and tried switching the uppers and I done think it will work with the loop facing forward... To me it seems like the shock was hitting... Yea and the directions that came with these ASR definately suck...If anyone has any tips on getting all the adjustments right, would be greatly appreciated..Also I just took acouple more pics because I put the front hubs on... If anyone see's something wrong please let me know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee 79 Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 If you were to install the top arm on the other side, the end result would be like 20 degrees more caster. The key here guys is "caster". Measure it and it will lead you right to how the arms should be installed. Remember, negative camber should be avoided. Brandon Thats what I was thinking too, I was going to adjust my caster to 5 degrees but when I do the damn shock hits the upper arm. Should have bought some laeger's or lonestar, I have fully adjustable arms and cannot adjust them how I want them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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