kawiking Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 this is for rippen/friends and anyone else that shoots those hills !! what would be the best set up for a hill shooter ? gearing ,porting,suspention ,compression ????? i read you all say "building a hill shooter" ....... what would be a great hill shooter. you have mx, sand drag,and asphalt bikes....... throw down some info on hill shooter's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhughes7 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Wide open hills or hole shots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawiking Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 hills .like in the video's rippen has.... do you like low end torque and low gearing ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhughes7 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I dropped a tooth on the front, And I love it for hill shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 So, Idiot holes? I dont know what vids rippen has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperlite33 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 So, Idiot holes? I dont know what vids rippen has. Are you kidding?!? :shoothead: Look under the vid section...Rippen has some of the sickest videos on here!!!! kawiking - In my limited hillshooting with the banshee I am super happy with my 4mil setup w/ 14/44 grears and would highly recommend a longer swingarm!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshee Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 If I was going to build a hill bike.... this is what it would be. (this idea has been discussed over the campfire many times) My ultimate hill bike would be a... Dune Ported Stock Cylinder 7mm crank +8 swinger 2 into 1 35mm carb setup Paul Turner Mids 9 paddle extremes Friggin thing would climb anything.... However, ive yet to see something Rippens bike wouldnt climb with his FAST dune port 4 mil. Rippen does have the sickest vids out there, and just wait till his dvd comes out... Shitty thing is, camera does the hills at Walden no justice at all, there is no run at the bottoms of the climbs, and they are WAY steeper then the pics/ vids show. Like hyperlite said, swingarm for those climbs are a must... This is what happens when stock swinger bike tries the nasty shit at walden... gets exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPEN Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Are you kidding?!? :shoothead: Look under the vid section...Rippen has some of the sickest videos on here!!!!kawiking - In my limited hillshooting with the banshee I am super happy with my 4mil setup w/ 14/44 grears and would highly recommend a longer swingarm!!!! Actaully Iam not sure if he wants to watch any of my vids unless he has some Asprin... :yelrotflmao: If I was going to build a hill bike.... this is what it would be. (this idea has been discussed over the campfire many times) My ultimate hill bike would be a... Dune Ported Stock Cylinder 7mm crank +8 swinger 2 into 1 35mm carb setup Paul Turner Mids 9 paddle extremes Friggin thing would climb anything.... However, ive yet to see something Rippens bike wouldnt climb with his FAST dune port 4 mil. Rippen does have the sickest vids out there, and just wait till his dvd comes out... Shitty thing is, camera does the hills at Walden no justice at all, there is no run at the bottoms of the climbs, and they are WAY steeper then the pics/ vids show. Like hyperlite said, swingarm for those climbs are a must... This is what happens when stock swinger bike tries the nasty shit at walden... gets exciting. I can't totaly say whats the best as there is so many differnt situations for climbing but ill give you what little knowledged based off experience I have.. Up here we have in most cases ABSOLUTLY NO run at all.. On top of that we are also riding 8,500 ft in elevation. With having no run your gonna obviously be in serious need of torque.. In theshee list he has most all of those mods equaling torque.. My current setup is basicly setup 75% climbs 20% duneing and the other 5 for drag.. Its a 4mil Fast duneport as Kiel mentioned.. So with that equals good torque from the 4mil as well as the porting... The porting on my bike is probably ported a tad more to the topend than a all out hill shooter may do but along with the 35mm Pwk's that plays a little into the duning/drag side. I also run the Vforce reeds which I belive helps with the quick low end throttle responce.. Also Iam running the Noss cool head.. Where we ride the compression is probably right around 158-160 psi range.. Good compression for the bottom but not so crazy it hurts some of the top(also I rather not run full race fuel-lol).. My pipes are CPI.. Again I was wanting something that comes on QUICK AND HARD.. But Cpi's also offer some top end so that goes back to the duning/drag side.. As for suspension and stuff Iam still running stock shocks and A-arms.. Iam running the dune runners on front with douglas blues.. Iam not sure on this but the dune runners seem pretty damn heavy. They turn well and with the weight I think they in help keeping the front down a tad.. The swingarm is a +6 stock extended.. Out back I have 21x12x8 8 paddle Extreams.. The Extreams are KICKASS.. 8paddles may be a tad on the light side but they still do REALLY well.. They hook enough to get me the traction but they also spin enough to keep the bike well into the power.. Also for sand the 21" on 8" wheels look sick and work great because of the height.. Helps keep you up out of the sand where the ruts get really bad.. I failed ALLOT of climbs when I was running the 20s.. For sprockets Iam currently running 14 in front and a 45 in the rear.. So Its geared pretty damn low.. If I wasn't so damn high up here gearing would be much different.. However it also works well with that gearing because of how much turning and how tight the shoots are. The tighter climbs are a first gear free for all.. Pin that shit and your geared low enough that when you have to let out, full power is just a clutch slip away. For more open climbs second is a kick in the ass... The only problem with that is sometimes we get goin to fast-lol.. As for the odds and ends that I think help are.. Anything to help get rid of heat... I got the billit water impeller and a guage to watch whats going on.. It sucks being stuck at the bottom of a climb and not being able to get out because of heat.. Mind you allot of our nastier climbs are a one way in and one way out deal. So Its nice to look at the guage and determine wether you an drop down for a climb or you need to stay up top and let her cool.. Iam telling you once you have a guage you won't want to go without.. I aslo have a pancake bearing for the clutch.. Again with getting lots of heat built up I don't wanna have to worrie about pulling the clutch in and welding the ball.. As for the clutch itself, its a FAST clutch.. I have one REALLY hard season on it and one medium season this year.. IT HAS WORKED GREAT! Also on my bike I run nerfs.. I don't think these are important in climbing realy at all.. However here they come in handy when trying to get into tight places with trees.. Without them I would get cought on stuff but they help to push the bike around as they rub on the trees.. So with that setup this thing THROWS DOWN of the hills.. I wish we could go out and run the stuff that Sno does.. Being at sea level Be RIPPEN shit up-lol Iam not sure if thats what all your after man.. If there is anything I missed or a question you have feel free to ask!!! RIPPEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhughes7 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I think the main thing you missed rippen, Is BALLS, you gotta have a set for some of these holes. I have been down in some nasty shit, And my bike has climbed out of it all except for 1 time needed a slight tug with a rhino. other than that, hammer down and hold on and you can make it out of most anything with your basic banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPEN Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I think the main thing you missed rippen, Is BALLS, you gotta have a set for some of these holes. I have been down in some nasty shit, And my bike has climbed out of it all except for 1 time needed a slight tug with a rhino. other than that, hammer down and hold on and you can make it out of most anything with your basic banshee. I agree with the balls thing-lol.. However I disagree with your last sentance.. That may work for the shit your climbing but I can send you a list of guys off HQ that have seen the climbs in Walden and would discredit that "you can make it out of most anything with your basic banshee"... Otherwise like I said I agree with needing some balls but I need to also add in that catagory, either some brains or non at all- :yelrotflmao: RIPPEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05Special Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I can climb just about anything in my location, my mods are in my sig but I just added a + 6 swinger which I agree is a must... The power from the mods on a stock swinger just don't cut it when hit a big old not at the top of a hill.. I need some paddles by the way... anyone have any they would want to trade for some nice holeshot hd's? Just to mention it, a 22" mud shark with the bike geared VERY low with tear some shit up...I'll try and post a pic of when I had them but it might not load... These tires are unbeliveable in mud, sand, and wear very well on the hard pack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05Special Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 lol, I just looked at the pic.. that was the day I did my stitch job on the right of my rear fender... Note...them tires are pretty warn too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhughes7 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I might of went abit far with the basic banshee, what I meant was ported motor and some other goodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawiking Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 cool... im not trying to build one, just got to thinking about wgat kind of set ups you were running. my stock cylns are drag ported ... so all its good for is keeping the throttle pinned !!! plus my bike sits to low to the ground. just wanted to see what a hill climbing bike would be compared to drag,mx or dune bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 ok, it was idiot holes. I have a bunch of vids of that stuff too. Thats all I built my bike to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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