fitz18 Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hey you guys. Ive done many searches here when trying to decide which pipes to buy. There is such a wide choice out there so my head is getting fried. My mate has dmc alien pipes on a standard bike with a K&N. I want pipes to put on my completely stock bike so i can kick his ass (if thats possible with just pipes!). :shrug: Since the bike is stock i was thinking toomey t6 but is there much difference in t5 and t6. I know t5's are better suited to a ported motor so should i go with t6's? Also wil they be good enough to keep with his dmc's?? Or what pipes do you's suggest? We just do riding round fields and wide open spaces. So prob looking for power at bottom mid and top. Thanks for helping with the dilema you guys! Id be lost without your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Round 1...ding ding ding... Everyone and their brother is going to say T5...because you'll want to get it ported someday. Yet 98% of those people never rode a ported bike with T6 pipes, guarantee... You said bone stock...I say T6s and get it jetted. You really should get a better air filter, and remove the snorkel as well. It is critical you jet the carbs accordingly. The next question is setup. How long is the race? Dead Stop? What kind of surface you racing on? I know you said fields...but are you racing in dirt or grass? Once you pipe your bike and jet it accordingly...you could probably maximize you setup with a cheap gearing change, air pressure, suspension setup and practice, practice, practice... The bikes will be very close either way...unless he can't ride, or you're a 100X better rider...you're not going to SMOKE him, period. Unless you weigh 90lbs, he weighs 300lbs and can't ride for a shit... You'll never find a pipe that gives you more bottom, mid and top. That'd be like baking the cake and eating it too...just not gonna happen. Any one pipe has good characteristics...but falls short in other areas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Get some fatties, if you want my opinion. The T5s are not going to have enough bottom and he'll be pulling you out of the hole and you'll be playing catch up the whole way. The T6s don't respond as well to porting, if you were to buy those and then decide to port, you'd end up buying another set of pipes. FMF Fatties have pretty good bottom end with a smooth really strong midrange and still top out good. With the Fatties, you'll be outrevving him and pulling hard as hell in the midrange. Best of all, the Fatties are fairly inexpensive and just get better and better with motor mods (porting/stroking/etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducman Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 On a non ported motor the T6's will provide the best all around power and most top end. The DMC's are a much more low end/mid range pipe. The DMC's will provide a little more traction, come on a little smoother, but in a long drag race to the top of 6th gear the T-6's will smoke the DMC's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitz18 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Top stuff guys. Thanks for the replys. I think i mite go for the t6's as i really have no intention of porting the bike. Im only small time compared to you guys. Also i have read the chrome on the toomeys is of a better starndard than the fattys?? not sure if that is true tho. The race is on a unused road so should be good. plenty of traction! So basically the t6's and the dmc aliens are pretty much similar? is that Correct? If you's can think of any more info to give me that completitive edge its greatly appreciated. Cheers men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Lightened flywheel and advance the timing...they're under the ignition cover on the left side of the bike, won't be able to tell, should run 100 bucks for both or so...and is a big improvement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmd0346 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Well I always say get the DMC 916's. They are a great pipe. They hit really hard in the mid range and pull good up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPRuck Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) I dont know man, its going to be close either way. The 916's are killer! I just sold my T5's and bought the DMC 916's because of the power delivery I was looking for. They were a beast from mid to top but I was looking for that low-mid throttle snap power and still have good top! Cylinders are heading out to Kevin (Herr Jugs) for an aggressive trail port and cant wait to mate them up to the 916's and hear them for the first time... Edited September 20, 2007 by RIPRuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sredish Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Fatties are hugely underrated here lately on this site, mostly because a lot of the peeps that are here now are into full dragging but that doesn't make up the majority of regular riders. In regards to the chrome on the Fatties, it holds up well. My Fatties were 3 years old when I sold them and they were still in perfect shape. No rust, nothing. Not saying the chrome is better than Toomeys but it's on par with them. And as far as the porting goes, you say never but if we all had a nickle every time we heard that. Porting isn't just for drag racers, there's wood ports, dune ports, trail ports, a portjob for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toybreaker Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 My fattied 88 out ran my friends t-6 2003 other than pipes we had the same bolt ons. We swap bikes and my bike still won (not by as much though) Go with the Fatties! Mine are old and still look ok. Dinged dented but still chrome, no flaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZBansheeMan Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I would have the head shaved a few .000" get some V-Force 3's bump your timing +4, Pro-design or equivelent filter adapter with K&N and outer wear, remove your air box lid, of course jetting accordingly, and either the T-5's , Fatty's, or Aliens. You will stomp him, then he will go upgrade to beat you and then you will want porting to beat him and so on...... The T-6's were designed for stock port timing engines, I would just get a better pipe to begin with.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) I've owned the Fatties and I prefered the power of the T-5's over the FMF's. But I liked the PT Hi-rev over the T-5's. They still had all the bottom but it felt like they pulled harder on top. But the PT's isn't what he was asking about so I'll move on. I'd say get the T-6's. He says he's not looking to get porting done and who are we to say he dont know what he wants. Go with the T-6's they will give you the most for what you got. There is alot of other bolt on mods that can be done before porting to get you more power if you want it. And I would say that Toomey's chrome is alot better then 98% of the rest of them out there.. Its alot better then the show chrome on my shearers thats for sure. Paul Turners tripple plated chrome is best in my opinon. Edited September 26, 2007 by Fouledout421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotaman Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 i have t5s on my banshee and im very happy with them. i had cpi inframes on it and wasnt very impressed so i went to t5s. thats my two cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imgoodatwhatido Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 i have t5s on my banshee and im very happy with them. i had cpi inframes on it and wasnt very impressed so i went to t5s. thats my two cents worth. me an my buddy bought our pipes the same time..he bought fatties an i bought t5's...3 years later his pipes still look new an mine dont look anywhere as good as his does...BUT i hate the sound of fmf silencers..that being said theres NOTHIN that sounds like a toomey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPRuck Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 You think T5's sound good, you need to hear the DMC 916's! I sold my T5's for the 916's and couldnt be happier with the riding I do. They are both great pipes though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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