nameehsnab Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Klotz 40:1 Honda 90W 1/2 quart premix to 5 gal gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellicoseBanshee Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 thx guys i also have another question. how do i figure out the ratio i mean how do i know when i have 50:1? What blowit said. X:1 means X parts of fuel per 1 part oil. Here is a quick way to calculate how much oil you will need for a given ratio (handy to know when the trusty ratio cup grows legs and walks away right after you lend it out at the dunes :mad:). 6 gallons of fuel mixed 32:1 (128 ounces X 6 gallons)/32 = 24 ounces of oil (768:24) 5 gallons of fuel mixed 40:1 (128 ounces X 5 gallons)/40 = 16 ounces of oil (640:16) Sometimes an example or two helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeDan Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 What blowit said. X:1 means X parts of fuel per 1 part oil. Here is a quick way to calculate how much oil you will need for a given ratio (handy to know when the trusty ratio cup grows legs and walks away right after you lend it out at the dunes :mad:). 6 gallons of fuel mixed 32:1 (128 ounces X 6 gallons)/32 = 24 ounces of oil (768:24) 5 gallons of fuel mixed 40:1 (128 ounces X 5 gallons)/40 = 16 ounces of oil (640:16) Sometimes an example or two helps. easy way for 32:1 is 4 ounces for every gallon of gas Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 You just get maxima 927 in the 16oz bottles and dump one in a 5 gallon can of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cykotik Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 You just get maxima 927 in the 16oz bottles and dump one in a 5 gallon can of gas. i used 927 and i ditn run my banshee for a month and it screwed the carbs up maake sure you run it all the way out if oyur using 927 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 i think any premix oil you find at a cycle shop will work great when mixed properly. I use klotz supertemplate or whatever it's called. I refuse to use amsoil dominator anymore because it looks a coating on the inside of the engine. Plus, i love the smell of castor oil. As with all threasd like this, to each his own. :ohmy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayzx10r Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 what oil do most of you run in your banshees? First, are you asking about transmission oil or premix 2-stroke oil? You will find that people are passionate in their decision to run the oil they will tell you to use so here is my $0.02. The Yamaha Manual spec calls for standard 10-30W 4-stroke engine oil to be used in the transmission...and to change it annually. I do it more often...I change mine about every 6 weekends/rides. Some change it every weekend. I don't know what type of riding you do or the temp where you are, but I use Shell Rotella T Synthetic Oil I buy at Walmart for $16.00 per gallon. Because it is a diesel engine oil, Shell recommends it for motorcycle transmission/wet clutch and any highly loadied 4-stroke applications. Pretty much any motorcycle specific oil is great...I prefer 10-40W. Walmart sells Castrol motorcycle oil for $2.50qt that would work well. Golden Spectro, Bel-Ray, Mobil 1, Klotz, and any of the other name brand $8-12 per quart synthetics are good too...I just think they are excessively expensive. Like I said, I use the blue bottle Rotella T Synthetic 5/40w for my desert/duning application. As for premix, for the past 15+ years I've used Yamalube 2R in my 2 RZ350s, '93 KX250, '00 YZ250, and my '02 Banshee. I work on my own bikes and my pistons/cylinders typically show nearly zero wear upon inspection. Determining ratio is easy. 32 to 1 means 32 parts of fuel to 1 part oil. 128 ounces of fuel (1gallon) divided by the ratio you want...in this case 32 = 4 ounces. 4 ounces of oil per gallon yield a ratio of 32 to 1. 4 ounces of oil multiplied by the number of gallons of fuel in your can you are ready!! Most 2-stroke oil quart containers have a ratio chart on the side. Maxima has a premix container that you fill to the appropriate line for the amount of fuel you want to mix. No guesswork. One quick point...any of the caster based oils will separate over a relatively short time and gum up your carbs real bad...necessitating removal and a de-gunking if not drained religiously!! Good stuff for racing, though. My point of view on a highly subjective topic. Jay From San D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 wait so i can run the cheap crap from walmart. I wish ida knew that long time ago. I agree, oils at bike shops are too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cykotik Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 One quick point...any of the caster based oils will separate over a relatively short time and gum up your carbs real bad...necessitating removal and a de-gunking if not drained religiously!! Good stuff for racing, though. My point of view on a highly subjective topic. Jay From San D. hey jay? how ahrd is it to clean out your carbs? i havent had time to take them out and clean them yet due to work, but how hard is it to take them off and t hen clean them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayzx10r Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) wait so i can run the cheap crap from walmart. I wish ida knew that long time ago. I agree, oils at bike shops are too expensive. Here is a source of info I checked out... http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html Because of the photos of the cut up filters, I now use the PureOne filters on all my vehicles. One of the big deals is to not use one of the 10-30w "energy saving" oils. I only use 10-40. Click on the "all about oil" if you want TMI about oil. There is a link at the bottom of the page that dead links to Shell posing the question if diesel oils were OK for motorcycle use. It used to say it was a great match for wet clutch applications as the heavy load demands of cycles were comparable to diesel loading. Oh well....good things don't last... They prolly figured out that they could repackage it and sell it to us for $10.95 per quart!! It's gotta be a conspiracy!! :woot: Edited August 13, 2007 by jayzx750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSBansheeDrags Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 i like the klotz supertechniplate racing oil for premix...the castor oil smells real good too....honda hp 80/85w in the tranny...dbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 i use klotz for my alky,and klotz for my tranny. klotz has a new tranny formula that works great a tad expensive,but great :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 heres the pic i was trying to put up http://www.klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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