the doug1789 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 i do alot of trail riding and it typicaly has alot of puddles. My problem is that when i ride through them that my shee well basicly go on cruise control and keep going when i let of the throttle.Sometimes if i pull the clutch in and rev it ,it goes away but then comes back. It reved so bad almost redline that i had to turn it off. My tors and parking brake are removed im wondering if getting the tors wet could (short circut) them causing it to do the opposite and rev instead of shut off. my friend that i was riding with says his does that because"its sopposed to so u dont get stuck in the puddle" im seriusly thinking it something electrical but i cant figure it out thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 that is NOT normal!!! sounds like it's going lean to me. When a bike isn't getting enough fuel it wants to rev higher. It probably doesn't have anything to do with the puddle but more something to do with when you slow down. If you have a clogged pilot jet then it would do this. I would pull off the carbs and remove the float bowls and take out the pilot jets.... take a look through the holes and see if you can see right through them. I had this happen to me once when I was running a single carb. I found a VERY small rock stuck in my pilot jet causing it to run really f***ed up whenever I wasn't on the throttle. If one of your carbs has this problem then because of your boost tube the other one will still feed the starving cylinder. Making the problem not so noticable for a minute or so. Long story short..... Next time this happens.... let it rev real high in neutrel for about 15 seconds then kill the bike without hitting the throttle and pull both plugs. If one is light brown or even white and clean looking then that is the side with the problem. your plugs should ideally be a very dark chocolate brown almost black with the very tip of the electrode being light brown. repost with results.... you may want to look into a pro-flo kit and get rid of that stock filter. I have a brand new airbox for sale if you want it with the pro-flo kit installed.... foam filter.... which is good for dirty riding. I have no need for it. I only ran it for about a year and a half. Still in new shape. always washed every other ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shee rips Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 my friends quad does the same thing. he thinks that the moisture causes the slides to freeze open :shrug: anyone have something to say about that theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Is it really cold there? I've had my carbs freeze from the snow getting in.... but it was 2 degrees. I've never heard of water making them stick without it being VERY cold outside. Maybe from a rusty cable though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the doug1789 Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 i have a new k and n filter and its fine ANY other time i ride it. ONLY when i go through alot or deep puddles does it rev like this, so i am sure it has to be electrical . Because if i run on the road or on DRY trail this never happens , only when the bike gets reallly wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 The carbs are sticking...stockers are notorious for it in cold OR wet weather... Are you running a lid on your airbox? Holes, snorkel? You can take the slides out, take a real fine scotchbrite pad, and sand the slides out the outside and all edges. Have you taken the needle off and put the hold down back on? There is a vent hole in the carb slide that can not be plugged, if you put the cable holder/needle stay on backwards, it plugs that hole and the slide can not vent....water makes this worse. I would think if it's an air leak...going in water will make the engine want to die out...not rev up. Or you could get a set of 28PWKs and not have to worry about it... A few more things, when you removed the TORS, did you drill/tap the carbs and use the idle screws? Also...when you tightened the aftermarket tops down, did you hand tighten them or tighten them using a pair or channel locks or vise grips. If you over tighten those caps, it can stick...as well. They only need to be snugged by hand, then use the L bracket to tighten down and hold them from coming un done.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the doug1789 Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 (edited) im not running a lid because the air filter i got for the airbox was TO big so (so i custom fabricated it (aka screws) to stay snug in the box) since i did that the top doesnt go back on. I thought that these k&n filters were sopposed to be waterproof so i didnt think twice about the cover. the puddles im going through arent mud bogging puddles there about 3-5 inches deep nothing that would flood the air box. im just curious why when i got off the trails and onto the road that it seems to stop,like it disappeared once i ran it to 6th gear . im compiling a list of everything that you guys say so that i can do it all at once THANKS VERY MUCH KEEP THE ANSWERS COMING i dont think its lean the plugs look perfect and when i mix the gas i put just ALIL more oil just to be sure also it was about 65-80 to when i went out i was wearing a t shirt and it felt good Edited July 20, 2007 by the doug1789 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I can assure you with 100% certainty they are NOT waterproof. if you get an outerwear on them, they are water RESISTANT..in other words, if you get a small, small splash on it, it'll deflect it. By no means waterproof. Is it possible the wrong air filter is not sealed properly? Sounds like you're sucking water...common sense says if you run through water and it caused an issue....it's getting in places you didn't think it could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHEE157 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I have my tors eliminated, and my parking break blocked off. Same thing that is happening to you happened to me prior to purchsing my k&N filter. I have the stock airbox with the snorkel. I'm not talking about huge amounts of water either just puddles, it would rev like crazy. The air filter fixed the issue. I'm going to say you should get the correct size filter, and try using the stock airbox lid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wood Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 i had the same problem,i think the slides are hanging up,i was getting alot of water in my air box and i have a k&n with an outerwear,smooth out your carbs,duck tape around your air box to keep water out,check all of the boots,from the air box to the carbs,and the carbs to the intake,that air filer has to stay dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the doug1789 Posted July 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 wont (smoothing..aka sandpapering?)damage the slides ,can you tell me exactly what this does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 wont (smoothing..aka sandpapering?)damage the slides ,can you tell me exactly what this does Stock carbs have a tight bore/slide. I wouldn't go use 50 grit sandpaper, I prefer a medium to fine scotchbrite pad... Hit the outside of it, the bottom edges, etc. You're just smoothing things out, not going so far as to remove any real amount of metal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_banshee Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 yeah i had to same problem before i switched to 28 flat slides ! that seemed to solve the problem, them 26's are junk chuck em out & get some 28's or bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 that is NOT normal!!! haha.... ya its actually quite normal.... and well documented. Listen to dajogejr's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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