twinrock Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 hey im in australia and im after a company in the states to order my 421cubkit set up..this will include crank and pistons and gaskets...who gives the best price and is trust worthy to make sure it gets here..any one have a price list comparison? thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 any one have a price list comparison? thanks.. You do...it's called the Internet. Click on one of the site sponsors' banners for pricing.... You're going to get a million answers on who to call....so...you're gonna be making a lot of calls. Go with who gives you the best service and price...it's your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Just click on the link in David's sig and be done with it. He wanted to say that anyway. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Just click on the link in David's sig and be done with it. He wanted to say that anyway. lol Yes, but I didn't want to offend anyone on "the dark side"... LOL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b33rs Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Not sure if Jeff has time, I talked to him a few months ago about building a cubby for me and he told me to call him back around August or September! So I took the money and bought another bike. I think everyone's busy this time a year but you might have some better luck than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 If you mean assembling it together, you're more than right. I think this user just wants to buy parts, and assemble it himself. If that's the case...it's a 1/2 hour phone call (you know Jeff) and 1/2 hour to ship and box up parts. If you're looking for an actual builder to assemble it....good luck at this time of year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy's Performance Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 If you mean assembling it together, you're more than right.I think this user just wants to buy parts, and assemble it himself. If that's the case...it's a 1/2 hour phone call (you know Jeff) and 1/2 hour to ship and box up parts. If you're looking for an actual builder to assemble it....good luck at this time of year.... The choice of builder should be a serious consideration. We have seen over 20hp variation on the same size cubs from different builders. It does matter. If you buy a ported cub from a builder and it is not 10+ hp better than out-of-the-box, they have not done their job. That is all I'll say here since we are not a sponsor here yet. If you're only concerned with looks and price, many go to Inland ATV, or Cascade Innovations. Inland is the cheapest, Cascade is also cheap, and has the most beautiful polished components on the market (for what it's worth..lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Good discussion topic, Nate... I've always been a believer that a cub should be clean up ported before it gets to your door. I'm sure you've seen a 100X more cubs than I ever have, and every one of them needs the casting flaws removed...they're pretty rough...which is ok. However, once the clean up port is properly done...in your experience, how much extra HP have you gotten out of them. I've never seen with my own eyes more than 5 to 10 HP max, full on drag porting...on a dyno. And that with some pretty good time spent porting them. I'm not saying the cubs don't have room for a little improvement, out of the box porting is pretty damn good...but I don't think there is that much drastic room to make them that much better, dollar for dollar... What do you think?? I agree...Cascade is pretty much in a league of their own when it comes to polishing parts. I wish I had the extra coin to get a few more items on my bike polished up....they're amazing!!! Not a big fan of InlandATV. In the past...they've offered items on ebay, claiming them to be in stock. Then a phone call to them and they'll tell you they're a few weeks out from having the item on their shelves.... Now...I understand a big part of the business for some is dealer pricing from a distributor, then drop shipping the part...but, I'm pretty sure Inland is a CP distributor. If they're gonna advertise and sell an item on ebay, they should have it on their shelf....maybe I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy's Performance Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Good discussion topic, Nate... I've always been a believer that a cub should be clean up ported before it gets to your door. I'm sure you've seen a 100X more cubs than I ever have, and every one of them needs the casting flaws removed...they're pretty rough...which is OK. However, once the clean up port is properly done...in your experience, how much extra HP have you gotten out of them. I've never seen with my own eyes more than 5 to 10 HP max, full on drag porting...on a Dyno. And that with some pretty good time spent porting them. I'm not saying the cubs don't have room for a little improvement, out of the box porting is pretty damn good...but I don't think there is that much drastic room to make them that much better, dollar for dollar... What do you think?? I agree...Cascade is pretty much in a league of their own when it comes to polishing parts. I wish I had the extra coin to get a few more items on my bike polished up....they're amazing!!! Not a big fan of Inland ATV. In the past...they've offered items on ebay, claiming them to be in stock. Then a phone call to them and they'll tell you they're a few weeks out from having the item on their shelves.... Now...I understand a big part of the business for some is dealer pricing from a distributor, then drop shipping the part...but, I'm pretty sure Inland is a CP distributor. If they're gonna advertise and sell an item on ebay, they should have it on their shelf....maybe I'm wrong. Inland was a joke, sorry. But we face constant pressure to match their prices. LOL Cascade does polish components beautifully. As a matter of fact, we reduced the price of our polishing in light of theirs. They are nice people, but not a great source for someone who is serious about power. Cp products have minimum prices that no dealer is suppose to go bellow, otherwise they jeopardize their dealership. To answer the question about "clean-up" ported vrs. Drag ported we typically see 15hp, depending on the size of the cylinder. The small bores are the hardest to find gains on for sure. It is true that they work well out-of-the-box. But also true that there are relatively large gains to be found by the builder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Thanks...Nate. And by small bores you mean the 65 and 68mm bore? Very good info to have...and share with all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynodon Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 (edited) All I will say here is that Nate done mine ( we assembled it) and believe me, I wouldnt be getting the numbers that I am if it wasnt done right !!!! I dont where Nate found the places to get the numbers out of the cylinders,BUT they haul PERIOD..... Nice to see you over here also Nate !!!! Edited July 6, 2007 by dynodon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy's Performance Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 (edited) Thanks...Nate.And by small bores you mean the 65 and 68mm bore? Very good info to have...and share with all. 65mm and 66mm bore are where we find the smallest gains. We did a 397cc 4mm that was almost 90hp clean-up ported on our dyno, and went to 101hp best run drag ported, on gas. We are still shy of 110hp/alky on our dyno with the 397s. That motor made the fastest under 400cc pass at the PS drags of 3.92@82, and that was even on gas. On alky at an ASDA certified track it has run 3.79@84, and runs consistant low 3.80s with the skinney rider. Our dyno is quite conservative, imho. :cool: Edited July 6, 2007 by McCoy's Performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Nice to see someone not only getting it done on the dyno...but back it up at the track as well. Nice numbers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Good discussion topic, Nate... I've always been a believer that a cub should be clean up ported before it gets to your door. I'm sure you've seen a 100X more cubs than I ever have, and every one of them needs the casting flaws removed...they're pretty rough...which is ok. However, once the clean up port is properly done...in your experience, how much extra HP have you gotten out of them. I've never seen with my own eyes more than 5 to 10 HP max, full on drag porting...on a dyno. And that with some pretty good time spent porting them. I'm not saying the cubs don't have room for a little improvement, out of the box porting is pretty damn good...but I don't think there is that much drastic room to make them that much better, dollar for dollar... What do you think?? I agree...Cascade is pretty much in a league of their own when it comes to polishing parts. I wish I had the extra coin to get a few more items on my bike polished up....they're amazing!!! Not a big fan of InlandATV. In the past...they've offered items on ebay, claiming them to be in stock. Then a phone call to them and they'll tell you they're a few weeks out from having the item on their shelves.... Now...I understand a big part of the business for some is dealer pricing from a distributor, then drop shipping the part...but, I'm pretty sure Inland is a CP distributor. If they're gonna advertise and sell an item on ebay, they should have it on their shelf....maybe I'm wrong. Inland ATV and RDZ are both on my list of crappy places to steer clear of...............Dave, basically covered my reasons for it, though I can go into alot more detail for RDZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCoy's Performance Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 All I will say here is that Nate done mine ( we assembled it) and believe me, I wouldnt be getting the numbers that I am if it wasnt done right !!!! I dont where Nate found the places to get the numbers out of the cylinders,BUT they haul PERIOD..... Nice to see you over here also Nate !!!! Thanks for the kind words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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