Matt96shee Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I started this thread to wake a few fellow banshee owners up to the new technology out there.... But instead all I found was a bunch of pussies who do nothing but cry about the cops and look at their banshee's while they rot in the garage. Yea man, your stand is really trick! Rot in the garage? How long have you been working on that thing? I thought it was a "so easy a caveman can do it"? When you start hearing about me on my badass banshee tearing up the place on your local news then you have the right to bitch. When will this be? You have 5 videos posted on youtube and none of them are of a running ultimate-mega-badass banshee. :shrug: And none of you would be hatin' if I didn't get all this flack about having a faster quad than the lot of you guys or riding on the street. They're all fast on the bench! In my eyes I'm the only one with a set big enough to do what is right for my local riders. It's not people like me who get trails closed. It's pussies like you guys who don't care enough to stop it from happening. And that is the cold truth. So grow a set and go out and make your voice be heard.everyone loves to judge other people. But I'd love to see you all take a look inward. At least I'm not afraid of doing shit that other people don't have the balls to do. I bet if you asked some of those 5000 people you were talking about, they'd tell you to quit riding on the street and acting like and ass. Get it running...post the video. That's all I care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 well if I wasn't a working/family man I could have spent more than 1 or 2 hours at a time on it. It's a shame it's taken this long, but rome wasn't built in a day as they say. I don't see you building anything that they don't sell as a kit... It is easy to efi your bike. try it. I did way more than just that though if you care to notice. I'd love to post more pics/vids instead of sitting here at work talking to you guys. but i like $$$ even more. sorry bro your just gunna have to wait like the rest of us. I haven't even seen my banshee is 3 weeks. It sux working 12.5hr nights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 ya I was right... your bitter. i don't care anyways.... stop thrashing my threads homo. I ashamed to ride the same bike as u now. Thanx for not voting! You trashed your own thread, and I was only one of the many that pointed it out. Don't be upset I called you out on it...(along with others, once again.) If you don't care, stop replying to my remarks. I'm ashamed to have you as a member here, and I can't even call you a fellow rider because of your dumb ass remarks. Adults (which, clearly you are not) are interested in the expansion and overall good for our sport. You being a little kid clearly shows you don't give a shit enough about it, only caring about yourself. Who is the bitter, selfish prick now? 12.5 hours a night? Wow..that's a long time in the drive through filling up cokes and checking orders. I bet your exhausted. Go ahead, post another reply...since I don't bother you and you don't care what I write. You were also supposed to stop reading my posts....that's working out well for you as well. Next, you'll prove to me what a little boy you are by typing tough and threating me, right? I know it's not a school night...but bed time is coming up pretty soon...make sure you get tucked in with the night light on, and don't forget to snuggle up with your barbie dolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZBansheeMan Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 So.............how about some elaboration on the injection ? Some day after I get my RZ-Shee finshed up and running with carbs, I wanna tackle the Fuel Injection project. I would like to take a little different approach though, maybe it will work, maybe not. I would like to however try and do what GM did with their late 90's Vortec engines and have it use both a map sensor and a mass air meter. It would also be really neat to have this thing sequential injected too. I would like to use one big throttle body similar to a 2 into 1 set up and have the injectors closer to the reeds not at the throttle body, in a sense keeping the runners dry like a multi port injected engine. I would also like to lenghten the runners a little along the lines of a tuned port injection also. I know it sounds a little complex, but that's what really intrigues me about the whole idea. Any thoughts ? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 ok back to educating the interest peeps. nevermind these other dicks knocking me... I would say that's a great idea with the 2-1 intake ...single TB is the way to go I'd say for a first timer. I'm a machinist so fabricating a set of tb's to make them work for me was within my grasp. I'd say try to get yourself an old graydon 2-1 intake and use that to mount a 46mm huyabusa TB or something comparable. Then you could mount some injector bungs right before the reeds and be all set with it. start reading up on the megasquirt site... www.msefi.com under the general dissusion topic you'll see "megamanuel". Check that out. you will only need a MS1 for basic fuel control. The only reason I went ahead and used MS2 with full control (spark and fuel) is because I wanted to get rid of the CDI box. It doesn't put out enough spark energy for a high boost engine. So in order to do that I had to make a custom stator/generator. Not easy for your first efi project! Stick to the fuel only.... so here's a list for you to start checking off... READ!!!! look around and make a parts list read more!!! you will need a ford mustang MAF a set of TB's with a TPS sensor ( any crochie from 02' up) MS1 set up for VR(trigger coil) input (where it gets the crank reading from) or you could get the signal from the negative of your coil. Depends on what you want to do... coil neg is easier prob. you will need to have a battery in your system for the mega's power. so get a rect/reg from a warrior and run the power wire for your lights into the rect, then from that into your battery MSD 2225 fuel pump.... it only needs 3 amps(about 50w) and WILL work with a ricky stator 200w basically the only thing the mega needs is: tach input TPS MAF MAP (on the mega's circuit board) 12v just read throught the "config" part of the manuel to see what you have to do. STAY IN TOUCH WITH ME!!!! I will answer all your questions when you get stumped. I had plenty of problems to work through. mostly I had to figure it out for myself since no one had done this before. But here I am to help you bro. so take advantage! ~ turbobanshee420 (douche bag of the year) :beer: take your notes haters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) one more thing rzbansheeman..... if you know about the rdrz500 forum then you should know about smurph and his efi rz350.... check that one too. He did fuel only and you should be able to get some good ideas for your system from him as well. Their is only 3 guys I know about that have made themselves a custom efi and I'm one of them... the other 2 being smurph and whitey. though whitey gave up on his efi banshee and went back to a drag banshee w/carbs last I heard. Check into it. I'm sure you could top all three of us if your patient. I could help you make some shit too since most of the time I spend here at work is making things for other guys on other forums. Let me know if you want some help. I've gotten pretty good at TIG welding alum. I could weld up your injector bungs for ya. Also if your good with CAD... my brother and I just got a HAAS CNC in the shop. He's willing to give me some machine time for my own projects as long as it's already drawn up in CAD for him to load into machine code for the cnc to understand. www.baldturbofreak.com l8r bro Edited July 10, 2007 by TurboBanshee420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 As much as I don't like the riding on the streets business I think this thread is headed in a better direction... A thought... would it be possible to steal the injection crap off a craptor and use on a banshee??? Its already set up for a quad and might be easier to retro-fit onto this particular application. I dunno how any of that shit works, just a thought. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZBansheeMan Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Yeah, I read about Smurph's, I was actually gonna ask you if you had heard about it.....LOL My thinking was that with injection one big TB would do the job quite well because the fuel is controlled digitally thru the injectors hence not needing a venturi, as where it seems that 2 will almost always outpower a single on carb terms. Another concern I had was about the 02's and the lifespan of them in premix gas/exhaust, and what are the chances of injectors clogging during winter months while the shee is hibernating ? I appreciate your support and response. :beer: Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I cant believe you guys just tried to justify what this guy has been saying. Persoanlly, I want this guy kicked off the HQ and have his posts pulled in case someone of higher power reads what he has been saying and decides to make a big deal about it. No matter what way you look at it, breaking the law hurts the sport and makes us look even worse than we already do. We have problems down in Winchester Bay, OR right now because people are haulin ass between the campground and the dunes, and the cops are gonna shut down the side of the road to atv's because they cant patrol it all day. I know a forest service guy that works down there, he had a dirt biker spray rocks on his Brand New Duramax pickup while the guy was hauling ass down the side of the road. This guy is almost certainly encountering other people on the street beside the police, and he is putting them in danger by riding on the street wether the police are chasing him or not. He has this I dont give a shit destructive attitude about other people, it reminds me alot of high schooler personally. Unbelieveable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Yeah, I read about Smurph's, I was actually gonna ask you if you had heard about it.....LOL My thinking was that with injection one big TB would do the job quite well because the fuel is controlled digitally thru the injectors hence not needing a venturi, as where it seems that 2 will almost always outpower a single on carb terms. Another concern I had was about the 02's and the lifespan of them in premix gas/exhaust, and what are the chances of injectors clogging during winter months while the shee is hibernating ? I appreciate your support and response. :beer: Mike Most of the time injector failure is caused by carbon clogging the nozzles, its going to be almost non-existent on a 2-stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLACE84 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I didnt "justify" with him, I just agree that everyone is being kinda harsh of him. Who cares what hes doing as long as it doesnt effect me. Thats just what Im saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZBansheeMan Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 I'm not trying to justify his actions, I just don't really want to hear anymore about street racing banshee's and out running cops with them either. However I am not going to jump the band wagon of trash talking people here on the HQ regardless if they are right or wrong. I just wanted to come here to meet new people, learn new things, share some ideas and everything along those lines. I also want to learn something more about injection. Carbs are a thing of the past and injection is now. I hope I am not offending anybody here it is not my intention, but I am trying to help get this thread back on track Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) snop... I didn't roost anyones truck or ride in OR so if you want to place blame then look somewhere else sorry man... If you want to make an example of me then whatever.... I'll take my ideas somewhere else. here is an idea.... if you don't like what I say then don't read it! Anywho... You might be able to use the craptor stuff but you would spend more time changing it to work then it would take to find something better. as far as the TB size.... it doen't matter because the fuel is atomized by the injectors. so you can go as big as you want on the bore size up to a piont. Injector failure is caused by dirty fuel.... unless of course you have a vortec engine which has the injectors right in the port next to the valve. and it would still take a cam with some overlap to carbon up the injectors. You haters can do all the people who want to learn a favor and stop posting here... just start a "I hate turbobanshee420" thread instead and post there. shit maybe you can even get a pole going...LMAO To make all you guys happy I deleted all the non-business posts so no more people cry about what I say. We would all appriciate it if the rest of you guys would slim it down to business only posts. or I could just start another new thread... Edited July 10, 2007 by TurboBanshee420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLACE84 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 How much $$ you got wrapped up in this thing right now?? some gears are turning in my head now for a future build on my play bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBanshee420 Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 (edited) megasquirt 2 v.3 = $199 (kit not pre-built) megasquirt 12' wire harness (each wire labeled) = $69 Innovate LC-1 wideband o2 = $169 05' GSXR 38mm TB's = $42 ebay MAF from mustang = $13 ebay silicone tubing from siliconeintakes.com = $64 14gauge magnet wire for stator = $10 fiberglass encloser = $25 ebay rectifier = $21 ebay battery = free donor fuel fittings/line (jegs) = $87 (-8AN...3/8" army navy size) fuel injectors from injectorsonline.com (610cc/per minute high impedence siemens deca shorty) = $180 36-1 ford EDIS trigger wheel = $20 ebay Accel GM DIS 2 pole coil = $36 ebay Garrett GT-17 = $48 + $220 rebuild Stainless tubing for exhaust/intake = $75 wastegate actuator = $35 ebay MSD 2225 external fuel pump = $89 ebay fuel pressure regulator = $90 bigger radiator = $225 ebay oil cooler for turbo oil (450r) = $28 lt300 oil pump for turbo = $8 machine work, time, shit I learned from this = PRICELESS keep in mind people that most of this stuff you definetly don't need if your doing a fuel only non-turbo banshee. I went the whole 9 yards on this thing to make it what it should've been 3 years ago when I did the turbo the first time. It would cost anyone about $600-700 to do EFI only to their banshee. With minimal skills, you could still get away with it easily. Plenty of things out there that would bolt on without machine work! Edited July 10, 2007 by TurboBanshee420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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