thelmuffinman Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 (edited) First off let me say I'm new here. As of now I ride a honda 250ex. My best friend just got a 2003 Banshee with Dg Pipes, Jets, Six Pack Rack, and some other shit for ike $2500. Him and I usually ride together and I ride my Sport Trax and he rides his 450 Rincon or whatever the hell it is. Anyway, his house is litterally next to a river. When we ride we often cross the river which doesn't get deeper than 3.5 feet. Both our quads get across it, his being better because of more power and 4wd not to mention I have no tread left on my rear tires. So here's my question. How do Banshee's hold up in the water? I've seent he airbox on his and it looks as if we rigged a small snorkel onto the airbox just to get the airflow above the bars it would do fine. Maybe not. Maybe there is something I don't know. That's why I'm asking. So, please don't bash me or flame or whatever, I'm just curious as to what the deal is with Banshee's and water. Thanks guys and hopefully within the next month I too will be a Banshee owner! Edited May 7, 2007 by thelmuffinman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollister_Hitman Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 it might be hard to extend the snorkel cause the seat and the gas tank are in the way but you could give it a shot. Also I don't know if that airbox is water tight. Also there is a hole in the back of the airbox to drain water. It should have a littler rubber boot on it, make sure that is still on. Also a banshee is the ideal machine for water, you would want at least 20" tires but probaly bigger. The tires still might just dig in and you will sink cause it is all top end and 2wd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelmuffinman Posted May 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 it might be hard to extend the snorkel cause the seat and the gas tank are in the way but you could give it a shot. Also I don't know if that airbox is water tight. Also there is a hole in the back of the airbox to drain water. It should have a littler rubber boot on it, make sure that is still on. Also a banshee is the ideal machine for water, you would want at least 20" tires but probaly bigger. The tires still might just dig in and you will sink cause it is all top end and 2wd Ok, great info! Anyone else who has some comments or suggestions feel free to let me know. I like the ideas. I was just sitting around thinking the other day like how hard could it be to custom cut a gasket and a few other things just to make it water tight. Again, I appreciate the information! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous039 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 From what I know Banshee+Water = Locked Up Motor. Banshee really dont like to deep of water, especially if you have your TORS removed. You can ride through small streams, but not deep amounts of water like you can on a 4stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 3.5 feet deep? the whole fuckin bike will be under water. no way a banshee gettin thru water that deep.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelmuffinman Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 3.5 feet deep? the whole fuckin bike will be under water. no way a banshee gettin thru water that deep.. Ok, I was expecting this. Not trying to be an asshole at all but..why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipperz Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 My banshee don't like water, If I wanted a water machine I'd lean towards a 4 stroke machine. But to each there own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I would lean towards a UTE.Water like that is close to the bars for alot of sport bikes.If you want a sport bike for that I would look into a ds-650 or raptor660 IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 3.5 feet!!! I think you need a boat, or maybe a yamaha waverunner, not a banshee. Well all kidding aside, banshee's are made for quad riding in sand, dirt, mud and small shallow water. They are not designed to be submerged in water like the 4x4's. The airbox is not water tight, thats not to say you couldn't make it that way, but I don't think that I would try it. The electrical connections, air intake (airbox, snorkel) are not designed with that kind of riding in mind. It is a sport quad anyway not a utility......... Just out of curiosity, why do you ride in that deep of water anyway? Does your friend live on an island and have a limited area to ride (just yankin' your chain, couldn't resist)............ Good luck with that............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLBILL Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Ditto what Loco said. Especially if there is any current or you cannot see the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaosBanshee44 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Well for one i wouldn't wanna make a Banshee a muddin machine. I went trail riding with some friends that all had 4x4s and i had well forced myself to get mine muddy. I came across a pond i couldn't ride through so i turned the motor off and walked it across. Even when the motor wasn't running i still got water in the airbox, crankcase etc. Luckily i didn't start it after that and cleaned everything out and put new oil and plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalegoldston Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 First time he sucks water into the carb/cylinder the rods are going to be the first to go, you know water will not compress. But its a good reason to buy a new welded and trued crank with hot rods. An expensive lesson I learned. Heed the warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washburn Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 DONOT Submerge a Banshee. I dont even like getting water to get up to where it can touch my motor for the most part. 4 strokes yeah because the motor has all of that caseing around it. The Airbox with lid on and snorkle is not airtight and you will suck water into your motor and thats $$$$ and alot of work to fix. 3.5 ft you better put a floatation device under the skidplates and walk it across. NO FRIGGIN WAY MAN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee0028 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 First time he sucks water into the carb/cylinder the rods are going to be the first to go, you know water will not compress. But its a good reason to buy a new welded and trued crank with hot rods. An expensive lesson I learned. Heed the warning. I completely agree. I learned the hard way as well. Fortunately I did not bend a rod or anything but I ended up doing a full rebuild.... I WILL NOT GO THROUGH WATER AGAIN :: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 It has nothing to do with 2 stroke or 4 stroke. 4 strokes have a crankcase vent hose that a 2 stroke doesn't. The problem is that water wasn't a consideration when they designed the banshee (same as pretty much any high performance quad). It CAN be fixed. That being said, if you want a boat, get a utility quad. You need to water proof the carbs whether you have TORS or not. The carb vent hoses aren't that important, just loop them so an air bubble will stay in that loop. Make sure that no water can get it near the throttle cable. You'll want to fix the vent on the bottom of the airbox (seal it up). The airbox lid isn't bad, it routes the air to the back of the box behind the filter, so splashes of water aren't a big concern. The other thing is the electrical connections. The spark plug caps aren't that great, NGK makes replacements that seal pretty good. Make sure the stator cover gasket seals well, seal up the wire going into that cover (its grommet isn't great). Then just get some waterproof connectors for everything else electrical. That liquid tool handle stuff might work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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