lockout

[FireHead]

Firehead I had enough of your lies and bs

You can address me directly and leave my freinds out of this

heres my #620-272-5081

I ma not sure who you are, but your friends are the ones who basically started and inflamed this whole thing..........

[Bansh-eman]

Well reading that was about as fun as a kick in the crotch

[dajogejr]

I am pretty sure that is Nate.

 

........verbal thrashings. I like that, I may need to borrow that phrase from you. :biggrin:

 

You can borrow that, if I can borrow this....

 

As Dave said, with respect to BansheeHQ, I am my own asshole, and I represent no one else.

 

 

I about pissed myself on a support call when I gazed at my email and read that....

[bada450r]

What do you call Mexicans in a hot tub? I don't believe I have heard this joke before.

a bean pot................................

[okbeast]

Can I get a cliffs notes of all that...im too lazy to go back through.

[bigboybanshee]

What's the retail price on this lockout?

[Bansh-eman]

Can I get a cliffs notes of all that...im too lazy to go back through.

Sure:

 

Firehead- This Design isnt very smart or efficient

GP- Fire your an idoit

Firehead- Bitch i got more time spent working with enginering shit then u have playing with your peepee

McCoy- i rule your dumb

Firehead- verbal thrashings

Bada- beaner

Dajogejr- cant we all be friends

 

there you go

[okbeast]

werd, thank sman :biggrin:

 

You said pee pee :ermm: :laugh:

[dajogejr]

Sure:

 

Firehead- This Design isnt very smart or efficient

GP- Fire your an idoit

Firehead- Bitch i got more time spent working with enginering shit then u have playing with your peepee

McCoy- i rule your dumb

Firehead- verbal thrashings

Bada- beaner

Dajogejr- cant we all be friends

 

there you go

 

 

Damn it...where were you when I was in school and needed that....

 

[McCoy's Performance]

Thanks dajogejr. You are right. And I will take that to heart.

 

I didn't come on here with anything to gain. I just came to defend a good company, and designer behind it, that have been completely, misrepresented. Even though Kevin could easily defend himself, he shouldn't have to. And for his accomplishments and efforts for the ATV industry, he needs thanked, not scoffed.

 

I would expect other decent people to do the same as I have done in this thread. And I hope that if it was I that was being attacked, someone would know the facts well enough to do the same for me.

If Mr. Firehead dislikes me for that, so be it. But all those who do know me, know that truth matters very much to me. And although I have had no intention in any of these posts to alienate anyone, pointing out that someone is clearly wrong does not tent to endure one's self to the "mistaken." And I always regret that.

 

I am sure Mr. Firehead would agree if the roles were reversed, and he was the one with the new product, and he made his living in the industry, and he and his products were maligned by someone who didn't know the facts.

 

Speculation is helful, even neccessary, when in the concept stage of a thing. But we're past that now.

 

Now, some of the pertinent questions are like these:

#1 Does it work?

#2 How does it compare to the existing designs?

#3 Is it safe(er)?

#4 Is it cost effective?

#5 Does it look cool?

#6 Does my buddy have one already? :biggrin:

 

Not necessarily in that order...lol And there are likely other questions of the same character.

 

Our opinions are as follows:

#1. Yes it works. We have been needing a lockout that could hold our big motor's torque with clutch springs light enough that normal people could pull the clutch in. The GP lockout is a solution.

#2. a.) It has more force than the traditional design. b.) It has better wear properties. (traditional lockouts wear into the pressure plate very rapidly on high torque applications) c.) It is less likely to fail. It has only a "single link" of moving components that apply the lockout force to the clutches. Whereas the traditional lockouts have a nut connected to a bolt, connected to a steel pivot arm, connected to a pivot pin, that all move to make the lockout function. And all of these components are connected to the assembly by two small screws. When any part comes loose, things get ugly. Which leads us to...

#3. We are confident, after real-world testing, that the GP design is safer than the traditional lockout. The inertia of the single ball is about the same as the nut on the arm of a traditional lockout. Consider the inertia of a complete arm coming lose on a traditional lockout, by comparison. And we have seen the devastation of the tradition lockout failure on several occasions. A steel ball does have some potential for damage it is obviously mitigated somewhat by their being smooth.

#4. Yes.

#5-6 are variables that are subject to change...lol

 

The only disadvantage that we can find is that assembly is more tedious. The traditional lockout is as simple to assemble as could be desired.

 

It is my understanding that it was a failure of a traditional lockout that inspired the GP design, in part. But please do not think that I am bashing the traditional lockout design either. They are what they are. Even they are consider safe, and a viable option in today's performance ATV circles. And we all know of there benefits. And we have run them.

 

And now we are turning to the GP lockouts. And I trust the safety of the design over the traditional ones, because we have tested them both, abused them both, and see the potential damage. We have considered the advantages and disadvantages of both, and we have concluded that the GP lockout is the best we know of to date.

 

Thanks for reading.

[FireHead]

Well reading that was about as fun as a kick in the crotch

Typing it out on my Blackberry was equally as much fun, probably pointless, and I am real happy with myself for doing it. ::

[FireHead]

Sure:

 

Firehead- This Design isnt very smart or efficient

GP- Fire your an idoit

Firehead- Bitch i got more time spent working with enginering shit then u have playing with your peepee

McCoy- i rule your dumb

Firehead- verbal thrashings

Bada- beaner

Dajogejr- cant we all be friends

 

there you go

I was in a meeting when I read this. It made me laugh out loud. :yelrotflmao: :yelrotflmao:

[FireHead]

a bean pot................................

I forwarded that to my old manual machine area manager (Mexican guy where I here most of the Mexican jokes from) and he hadn't heard that joke either. He thought it was pretty funny. :thumbsup:

[FireHead]

I about pissed myself on a support call when I gazed at my email and read that....

Atleast I am good for something around the HQ, even if it is inducing involuntary urine release. :biggrin:

[FireHead]

I am sure Mr. Firehead would agree if the roles were reversed, and he was the one with the new product, and he made his living in the industry, and he and his products were maligned by someone who didn't know the facts.

If it makes you feel any better (not that you need to), I deal with that BS everyday. To a certain extent it was not that bad in the racing industry because the time from initial concept to the door was very short, but again we were never supplying to the general public.

 

Now, in my new position, every design, design change, or even an untimely nose twitch has to be thoroughly docuemented and run through various departments through out the world before it ever makes it to production certification and then finally the somewhat general public. IMO in this environment you have to have an even thicker skin as an engineer.