Michael Jackson Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 our wonderfull government/ low enforcement once again... they do a great job of saving lives, bunch of idiots... 2 hours they could have had that place surrounded with swat teams and hellicoptors... thats just plain fuckin retarded im sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000-banshee Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) ya the hole incident is fucked up people don't think before they act think about all the families it effected Edited April 17, 2007 by 2000-banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I think something could have been done to prevent these killings, and I cannot believe this happened to us, especially in the condition of our nation considering the war and all. so what would you have done? when something like that happens and your not prepaired for it you dont react as easily as you think you would. and the factt hat we are at war maens jack. the killing had nothing to do with political views or any of that... Yea, they fucked up BIG TIME. I guess they went into lockdown for a couple hours, nothing happened so they released it. Yea nothing happened except for 30 more deaths. Who the fuck do they have running that place, a monkey?? its very ez to be an outsider looking in and critize what leaders do. if it was so ez im pretty sure they would have done it... if nothing happened for hours there was no reason to not release the lock down. pretty much anyone in charge would do the same thing. and if you say oh i wouldnt, id wait until the police had it under control ... your full of shit. keeping the place on lck down for hours without anything happing gives enough reason for a campus leader or even the police to beleive all is well.. so next time your so quick to judge them and say they fuked up or these death could have been prevented you might rethink your statements. theres alot more to it then what you and i know and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 our wonderfull government/ low enforcement once again... they do a great job of saving lives, bunch of idiots... 2 hours they could have had that place surrounded with swat teams and hellicoptors... thats just plain fuckin retarded im sorry... your a fool MJ, do you have any clue how big Virgina Tech is? the school has over 25,000 students. over 100 buildings on 2600 acers and an AIR PORT? what school has its own air port ? to surround the school would take several hunder swat team officers which im pretty sure they didnt have... not to mention surrounding the school doesnt do anything... you have to go in the building and find them... we are talking about 100 plus buildings... that takes time... they didnt know who the shooter was what he looked like or where he was at... so they had 25000 suspects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIM_Whiteboy4life Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 This is why people should carry heat. At least stab the mofo with a pencil. If everyone could carry we would have less innocent* deaths. Just my opinion :shrug: I wouldnt go out without a bang not for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 what school has its own air port ? Oklahoma State does. I completely agree with what you have said so far. It pisses me off that people are throwing the blame around. The blame belongs to the zipperhead that pulled the trigger; not the cops, not the school, not the hospital. People need to learn to accept responsibility for their actions, and the news media needs to stop being so damn ignorant to try to pin it on other people. The dude got dumped by his bitch and lost it, seems pretty clean cut to me that this was his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamindemon350 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I heard on the radio they just outlawed guns on VA tech's campus. I mean come on people if they dont want shit like this to happen then they should let everyone with a CCW permit carry everywhere they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 This is why people should carry heat. At least stab the mofo with a pencil. If everyone could carry we would have less innocent* deaths. Just my opinion :shrug: I wouldnt go out without a bang not for anyone. I heard on the radio they just outlawed guns on VA tech's campus. I mean come on people if they dont want shit like this to happen then they should let everyone with a CCW permit carry everywhere they go. im not sure that i agree with this... i havent really put much thought into it to really have a side.. but right off the top it doesnt seem like its the safest thing to let everyone carry but i havnt really thought of the pro and cons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPEN Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Good posts Bansh-eman.. I understand why people are quick to throw the blame around, its the first natural reaction IMO.. However its not always right.. Its impossible to have a emergency action plan for EVERY senario that may occure, especialy on such a large place.. This world is getting more and more screwed with no signs of slowing.. Oh but I do agree that it taking 2+ hours to warn others is BS.. RIPPEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbanshee8 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I heard on the radio they just outlawed guns on VA tech's campus. I mean come on people if they dont want shit like this to happen then they should let everyone with a CCW permit carry everywhere they go. I couldn't agree more. With a CCW, you would never know who was armed, and who wasn't, and neither would these idiot terrorist's, and mass murderers. It would make some of them think twice, before they got some dumb idea, to walk into the local college, or mall, or McDonalds, and start shooting the place up. If a business, or other public place is going to outlaw guns on the premises, then they should have security in place, to prevent guns from entering. I know that my last statement, sounds like a real expensive pain in the ass, for businesses, colleges, and so on, so why not allow people with CCW's to carry, where ever they go? I know it wouldn't prevent everything, but it would damned sure be a whole lot better, than what we have now, in 99% of the public places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbanshee Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Oklahoma State does. I completely agree with what you have said so far. It pisses me off that people are throwing the blame around. The blame belongs to the zipperhead that pulled the trigger; not the cops, not the school, not the hospital. People need to learn to accept responsibility for their actions, and the news media needs to stop being so damn ignorant to try to pin it on other people. The dude got dumped by his bitch and lost it, seems pretty clean cut to me that this was his fault. you are 10000% right the only person you can blame is the shooter. but at the same time you can in a way blame the staff at the school and the local P.D for not making 10000000% sure the shooter was dead gone or totaly out of the area before lifting a lock down. everyone remembers the school shootings in san diego? Santana high and Granite hills high. both schools and local P D did the right thing on both of those ( boh schools are a 10 min drive from my house so it was big here) but they didnt let anyone go anyplace for any reason untill the shooter was no longer able to shoot...yes they diodnt know where or who the shooter was and no you cant blame them for it, but they should have made sure they knew who and where the shooter was before lifting a lock down...someone said you cant know how to react untill you are faced with making that decision..well i believe everyone does what they think is right at the time..well i personaly would have locked the place down untill the shooter was dead or in custody of local PD. why do i know how i would react. because when i was 18 i worked at a theater that some crazy fuck came in and started shooting and i took it on myself to make sure nobody went anywhere untill the cops shot the fuck out of the dude..but like i said yes they messed up and yes they couldnt have known but they only messed up because they DID NOT FIND THE SHOOTER BEFORE LIFTING THE LOCK DOWN..YES ITS THE SHOOTER TO BLAME BUT YOU HAVE TO FACE FACT THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER LET ANYONE OUT OF THE BUILDING UNTILL YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHERE TO FIND THEM FIRST.. sorry for the book but this realy pisses me off to see this happen again..next were going to have another sniper roaming the eastern states taking random people out who just wanted to pump the gas into the car or go to home depot for some lumber for the tree house for the kid or what ever it it they did the day the got taken out by a damn sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 but at the same time you can in a way blame the staff at the school and the local P.D for not making 10000000% sure the shooter was dead gone or totaly out of the area before lifting a lock down. No way. That is not even plausible. One person dies in a shooting, who honestly cares? Isolated shootings happen all the time and you cant shut down a whole city over it, V Tech is almost that size, by population. The police didnt do anything wrong. They simply saw what appeared to be an isolated event and reacted as such. If every event were treated like a possible terrorist attack people would care about twice, then it would be a boy crying wolf. The man with the gun in his hand is the only person to blame. If someone thinks otherwise they have no common sense, which is really not all that common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 No way. That is not even plausible. One person dies in a shooting, who honestly cares? Isolated shootings happen all the time and you cant shut down a whole city over it, V Tech is almost that size, by population. The police didnt do anything wrong. They simply saw what appeared to be an isolated event and reacted as such. If every event were treated like a possible terrorist attack people would care about twice, then it would be a boy crying wolf. The man with the gun in his hand is the only person to blame. If someone thinks otherwise they have no common sense, which is really not all that common. EXACTLY! you nailed it! couldnt have said it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastrthnu Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 EXACTLY! you nailed it! couldnt have said it better. another thing to add to not to many people are aware of,. but there where several bomb threats made at that campus previous to this event. something to consider before jumping all over the PD`s decisions on lockdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonbon Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 another thing to add to not to many people are aware of,. but there where several bomb threats made at that campus previous to this event. something to consider before jumping all over the PD`s decisions on lockdowns. Bomb threats are all to commonplace anymore, its kindof the same deal as locking down the campus because of what they thought was an isolated shooting, you do it a few times and its like boy crying wolf and no one would care like gimmeabeer said. Just because something bad happens on a college campus or in a city does not mean its going to lead to a mass murder.........hindsight is always 20/20 and it is impossible to predict the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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