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Hey Firehead, I am not clinically tarted. i have a 4 mil that will give any 10 mil all it wants, BRING it down, we are in Ga quit a bit too!!

Dont pay attention to 535, he gets ruffled feathers quit easily.

On a different note, I am 240 lbs, I have my flywheel shaved, stock ignition with a lock up, and it shoots out of the hole just fine

 

Thanks....Don.

I'm going to leave the flywheel as is, tune in the lockup....and go from there.

 

I appreciate the input!

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I'm running stock ignition on mine and it seems to run just fine. I didn't opt out for an aftermarket ignition cause I'm not running anything "out of the ordinary" like nitrous that would benefit from a programmed ignition. Everyone I've talked to said that upgrading from stock really isn't necessary and you don't need it unless you're running nitrous...just what I've been told

 

Now, the people I know running nitrous seem to really favor the PVL ignitions. When I buck up and put the gas on mine that's the ignition I'll be switching to.

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Are you guys sure Dan Hull runs stock?

I thought I read somewhere on PS that he uses and Artic Cat snomo dual coil setup. Could be wrong....

 

I got a dyna and nology for a few reasons.

 

I wanted a better coil than stock. Do I need it? Probably not...but, I had a 10 year old coil...so, instead of waiting for mine to fail, I bought a new one.

 

Also...here's my biggest thing about my Dyna.

 

I fully understand you can get a cheapo plate and advance your timing (I've got one) however....all you can do is advance the overall curve.

 

With a programmable dyna, you can advance it more in the lower RPMs, yet retard the timing as the R's raise for more top end and overrev.

 

Once (if ever...lol) I get my bike together and get time to get to a dyno, I've promised to make dyno pulls with stock dyna settings, then programmed curves to see the real difference....

 

(Also, my CDI was 10 years old, and where the wires went in the plastic housing was cracked up...just a problem waiting to happen....)

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i hate to burst 535's bubble......but i was at dans shop a week ago and guess what....he has a new dyna ignition setup for his turbo bike

 

just thought id throw that in.....

Dan

 

Yeah, I am pretty sure he runs a Dyna CDI or that Arctic Cat deal (that I am still not sure 100% what is involved with it) on most of his larger engines. In fact I think there is a video floating around out there of him working on a Dyna box with a laptop.

 

I didn't mention it before, because, like I said, I think 535 may be clinically retarded. :ohmy:

 

I agree with Dave about the Dyna advance options. I feel that if you run alcohol or any sort of oxygen additive (including NOx) to your fuel, you need to change your timing curve quite a bit in order to take full advantage of the fuel and make the engine run properly. A timing plate or degree key, just does not get the job done in the best manner in these cases. If you had an engine on the dyno and in one case all you could do was adjust base timing and in another case you could adjust the entire curve, you will always gain more performance from the engine with adjusting the entire curve if all else is equal. :thumbsup:

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Pretty good info.

 

The plan is to run it how it sits now and put it on a dyno. This summer before next season my bike will be going to alchol in which i will dyno with stock cdi/wire etc and then with aftermarket.

 

I was mainly curious if anyone had any dyno sheets in which they could show a difference.

 

Thanks again guys.

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i am a dealer of dans and who do you think told me to run stock. i just got off the phone with dan and asked hs opinion. STOCK! i am not sure about his turbo motors but will know soon because i am geting ready to build two with him.

 

You must be a dealer of his if you were able to get him on the phone....

:yelrotflmao:

 

Just kidding...well known he's busy and isn't the best in getting back with people...

 

His work more than speaks for itself in any circle, however.

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the best thing to do about this subject is to pick one builder that you like and do waht he tells you. i like dan and trust his opinion 100percent. that why i sell his parts and porting. i am also a dealer for trinty racing but i like dans motor work better. dont listen to firehead or me. jst pick someone you trust to bulid your stuff

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the best thing to do about this subject is to pick one builder that you like and do waht he tells you. i like dan and trust his opinion 100percent. that why i sell his parts and porting. i am also a dealer for trinty racing but i like dans motor work better. dont listen to firehead or me. jst pick someone you trust to bulid your stuff

 

535...I totally agree. When I went to build my cub last year, I called 10 builders...

It was busy season, about this time last year. A few just kinda treated me like a number, a couple were ok...and a few never called me back, even though I was ready to hand them a Visa number and spend a solid 3K on various items.

 

Now...you know as well as I do...3K is not a TON of money when it comes to building a drag bike. However, it's a fair chunk of change that merits a return phone call.

 

In the end, I chose who treated me the best, had good pricing (no one can be the cheapest on everything...period.)...and who I thought respected me.

I know I made the right choice.

 

Anyone can talk about customer service. I've worked in retail for a long, long time. Both sides of the fence...at the store level and the corporate level. All people want is someone that is honest and treats them fair. Customer is NOT ALWAYS right 100% of the time. You can bend, but can't break.

 

I've had the best customer service from my chosen builder...and although I don't buy all my parts from him (I do find some pretty good deals on used parts, here and there...) I always do my best to support those that support me.

 

Bottom line is...find someone who treats you like you want to be treated....very well put 535.

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