pokeatyou2 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 ok i know there are alot of negatives on here about octane boosters but some people just cant get race fuel so im just curious to see if any body has actually used it sucessfully. and if any problems actually arose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex! Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I use to run it in my turbocharged Mustang - 94 octane plus some booster, I'm not sure how many more points of octane it raised it (if any) but it did in fact keep it from pinging. I also ran it in a 11:1 Raptor - no pinging, and I never ran into any problems. I'm not sure what happens once you mix oil into the mixture though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 In 4 strokes it's ok. I just don't like having to measure, etc., for two strokes. I know Klotz makes octane booster...that's a name I'd trust if I had to use them. I know you're in Austraila...but, have you google searched for race gas availability down there... Hell...Chad Reed is an Aussie...he had to get race gas at one time or another... (J/K...I'm sure it was shipped to him in a gold drum... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlotzBanshee Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I wouldn't use it, but thats me. I thought I read somewhere that because you are mixing it with oil that the octane is inconsistant because it doesn't mix well. Problem is that I can't remember where I read that, if it was someones opinion or actual fact............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokeatyou2 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 i know a couple of places to get it but u need a special licesence to buy it and it is $70 for 20litres thats crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I currently (and in the past) use Torco accelerator additive. It seem to do what they claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I currently (and in the past) use Torco accelerator additive. It seem to do what they claim. I should have guessed you would the a person who is a fan of octane booster. :woot: Atleast your using a type of octane booster than might be worth while. I half way expected to see you claiming NOS Octane booster was giving a 70 horsepower increase. :laugh: Back to the topic at hand, I recommend that a proper racing fuel is used before any one gets out the octane booster. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I should have guessed you would the a person who is a fan of octane booster. :woot: Atleast your using a type of octane booster than might be worth while. I half way expected to see you claiming NOS Octane booster was giving a 70 horsepower increase. :laugh: Back to the topic at hand, I recommend that a proper racing fuel is used before any one gets out the octane booster. :thumbsup: Just something you should know about octane boosters. They all say on the bottle how many "points" it will boost your octane right? The crappy thing is there are 10 octane points in 1 octane number. This means that if you have 94 octane fuel and you go spend some 5-7 bucks on a "super booster" that will give you an AMAZING 7 points of boost. Your fuel is now a whoping 94.7 octane. I would not waste the money plus, well, search from a week or so ago on why race fuels are just better any day than pump fuels. Octane boosters will never remove all the additives in you fuel. As we always say here " Don't feed a race horse snickers bars and expect to win". Your banshee is a full bread race bike, feed it what it needs. Brandon Mull Engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Just something you should know about octane boosters. They all say on the bottle how many "points" it will boost your octane right? The crappy thing is there are 10 octane points in 1 octane number. This means that if you have 94 octane fuel and you go spend some 5-7 bucks on a "super booster" that will give you an AMAZING 7 points of boost. Your fuel is now a whoping 94.7 octane. I would not waste the money plus, well, search from a week or so ago on why race fuels are just better any day than pump fuels. Octane boosters will never remove all the additives in you fuel. As we always say here " Don't feed a race horse snickers bars and expect to win". Your banshee is a full bread race bike, feed it what it needs. Brandon Mull Engineering Brandon, do you have any links or other to back that up? (I'm not doubting you at all, don't take it that way. Rather, I learned something if that is in fact the case....) I'm aware of the RON and MON rating system...however, never heard the 10 points to one number before..... If that is the case, you'd need a SHIT LOAD of octane booster to get just a few full numbers in octane. At that point, it can't possibly be cheaper than race fuel.... However, to the original Aussie that posted. My advice to you is if race fuel isn't readily or easily available to you, steer clear of large compression increases or timing advances (+4 is fine) to keep it safe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Brandon, do you have any links or other to back that up? (I'm not doubting you at all, don't take it that way. Rather, I learned something if that is in fact the case....) I'm aware of the RON and MON rating system...however, never heard the 10 points to one number before..... If that is the case, you'd need a SHIT LOAD of octane booster to get just a few full numbers in octane. At that point, it can't possibly be cheaper than race fuel.... However, to the original Aussie that posted. My advice to you is if race fuel isn't readily or easily available to you, steer clear of large compression increases or timing advances (+4 is fine) to keep it safe... http://www.prestone.com/carcare/faq.php#q7 Here you go. I just grabbed the first one I saw for octane boosters. This is direct from the Prestone website. If you need more technical data, I am sure it is all over the web somewhere. Trust me, octane boosters are something, like static phase converters, that should be uninvented because it can be a scam if you don;t understand the conversions. Octane points and numbers = not the same Brandon Mull Engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 http://www.prestone.com/carcare/faq.php#q7 Here you go. I just grabbed the first one I saw for octane boosters. This is direct from the Prestone website. If you need more technical data, I am sure it is all over the web somewhere. Trust me, octane boosters are something, like static phase converters, that should be uninvented because it can be a scam if you don;t understand the conversions. Octane points and numbers = not the same Brandon Mull Engineering I think that is a fairly accurate description. If I may add a bit to this: octane boosters generally cause different results between RON and MON tests. Based on that, I think the octane boosters may be even less effective than the posted Prestone link eludes to. Besides what has been stated, the ultimate reason not to use them is that they are a band-aid type of solution. There are generally other chemicals in the octane booster that slow down the combustion flame front and various other things/ That basically nets, you unreliable perfomance at best, depending on what is present in the fuel they are mixed with. :geek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I think that is a fairly accurate description. If I may add a bit to this: octane boosters generally cause different results between RON and MON tests. Based on that, I think the octane boosters may be even less effective than the posted Prestone link eludes to. Besides what has been stated, the ultimate reason not to use them is that they are a band-aid type of solution. There are generally other chemicals in the octane booster that slow down the combustion flame front and various other things/ That basically nets, you unreliable perfomance at best, depending on what is present in the fuel they are mixed with. :geek: That conversion is "americanized" and assumes RON+MON/2 methods. Octane boosters are like taking a fire extinguisher to a bond fire party. you want a nice controlled burn, not put the fire out and that is kinda what they do, or slow it way down anyway. Needless to say, no "super booster" in my parts shelves. Brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 That conversion is "americanized" and assumes RON+MON/2 methods. Octane boosters are like taking a fire extinguisher to a bond fire party. you want a nice controlled burn, not put the fire out and that is kinda what they do, or slow it way down anyway. Needless to say, no "super booster" in my parts shelves. Brandon That'd a fairly decent analogy. I like it. I also agree with you. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy05 Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I heard raw gas is lower octane and all gas that is higher in octnae has additives. Even race fuel. If not, then what is the diference between say 91 and 110? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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