sand4ever Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Does anybody know what spring I need for the rear shock. I'am about 260 and need a heavier spring. just added a +4 swingarm and now the rear is really soft. Who and what spring to use for my weight. I will use the stock shock for now, but need a heavier spring. Does the eibach from cascade work for my wieght? Just need to get a spring this week, since my wifes bike is almost done. Thanks p.s. yes hooked on phonics didn't work for me either, title should be swingarm, duh!!!!! Edited March 12, 2007 by sand4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 your going to need to revalve the shock on top of that new spring... call cascade and ask them what spring they recommend.. or call works... they will explain everything u want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Eibach makes a spring that should work for you. I can't emember the part number, but you can get it from their website. As Bansh-eman says, you will also need to get the shock revalved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand4ever Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ok so I called works and cascade, they told me to revalve and a new spring was between 350-400 bucks. Holy crap, I think I could buy a new shock for that much. What is everyone elses opinion? Can i just buy a spring from eibach to get buy for a while. Also what spring rate would I need for my wieght @ 260. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ok so I called works and cascade, they told me to revalve and a new spring was between 350-400 bucks. Holy crap, I think I could buy a new shock for that much. What is everyone elses opinion? Can i just buy a spring from eibach to get buy for a while. Also what spring rate would I need for my wieght @ 260. Thanks I am pretty sure that you can't buy a good shock for that much. I think an inexpensive rear shock from Works is like $600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand4ever Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ok so a little more than I figured, but can I use a eibach spring to get by for a while or not? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Ok so a little more than I figured, but can I use a eibach spring to get by for a while or not? Thanks Yeah you should be able to get by with just the Eibach spring for awhile. I think the spring is arounf $100 from Cascade. IMO with a +4 arm, the spring is about 80% percent of the total solution and the reamaining 20% is valving and shock condition. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand4ever Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for the info. The bike is a 02 with not that many hours on it. With the stock swing it is frim and rides good. then I tried the +4 on it. When I sat on the bike it just went down and is soft. that is why I wondered about just getting the spring from cascade to get by unitl I save more money to get is revalved. If anyone else has the eibach spring let me know before I buy one if they have had good luck or bad. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for the info. The bike is a 02 with not that many hours on it. With the stock swing it is frim and rides good. then I tried the +4 on it. When I sat on the bike it just went down and is soft. that is why I wondered about just getting the spring from cascade to get by unitl I save more money to get is revalved. If anyone else has the eibach spring let me know before I buy one if they have had good luck or bad. Thanks My red bike in my signature has a +4 arm with an Eibach spring and was revalved by TCS. I ran the +4 arm on that bike for awhile with out doing anything to the shock. I ride primarily in the dunes so I was able to get away with that for awhile. The poor ride was starting to wear on me so I finally broke down and bought the Eibach spring from Cascade. I rode the bike for over a year with it like that. One day, I had to drive out to Lake Elsinore, CA (where TCS is located) for something else and decided that it would be dumb if I didn'y drop my shock off out there to have it revalved since I was going to be out there any way. I am very happy with the improvement in ride quality the valving made and I wished I would have taken care of it sooner, but if you're young and your back doesn't bother you, you can probably hold off revalving the shock for a long time. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Did you try adding tension to the rear spring?When I added my +4 swingarm,I tightened up on the tension all the way and it helped out alot.I am no little dude either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand4ever Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I don't think I have that much left, maybe 1/2 inch or so. Would that make much difference? Any info is good info. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Did you try adding tension to the rear spring?When I added my +4 swingarm,I tightened up on the tension all the way and it helped out alot.I am no little dude either! Putting more preload on the rear spring won't help. All that does is adjust the ride height. I suppose if you tightened the spring to the point of having the spring coil bind when it hits a bump then it might make a difference, but I wouldn't do that unless you hate your lower back and kidneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) How can that adjust the ride height? :shrug: It will not raise the bike at all. The extended swingarm takes away some of the stiffness of the spring and adding a little more tension to the spring it gives some back. Edited March 15, 2007 by MDS2106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I don't think I have that much left, maybe 1/2 inch or so. Would that make much difference? Any info is good info. Thanks I would try it,if you dont like it you can always go back to where it was before .That 1/2 inch will make alot of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 How can that adjust the ride height?Maybe if someone loosens the preload on the rear shock, it might possibly drop it a slight slight bit,but tightening the spring will not raise the bike at all. The extended swingarm takes away some of the stiffness of the spring and adding a little more tension to the spring it gives some back. Adding or subtracting tension from the rear spring is done with the preload adjustment. Adding preload most certainly will raise the bike up some. I think you may have a seriously mistaken idea of what what preload is and how the adjustment of it effects things. All preload does is index the spring in relation to the shock. It does not increase the spring rate unless you put in so much preload that the spring's coils bind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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