04' Black Betty Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Just wondering if anybody runs these on there shee. My discription of mine says I run them but after thinking awhile i thought I would get some input before I paid the $200 for them, let me know. Anything would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeyfz Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 i heard that there not worth it . spend your money else where Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Not only are they not worth it, they carry the same stigma with them as the boost bottle. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 never heard of it . what the hell is it if its like a boost bottle you dont need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodro77 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 they are not like the boost bottle . the scary fast power now do work , i have never tried them on a banshee but i have put one on a 4 stroke and i did notice alot better throttle responce. is it worth the price ? thats up to you , to me it was . every little bit of power is worth it . people shouldnt knock a product unless they have tried it first . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 they are not like the boost bottle . the scary fast power now do work , i have never tried them on a banshee but i have put one on a 4 stroke and i did notice alot better throttle responce. is it worth the price ? thats up to you , to me it was . every little bit of power is worth it . people shouldnt knock a product unless they have tried it first . If you can explain the principles for how a product like this improves a properly functioning intake tract, then I am all ears. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster668 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 If you can explain the principles for how a product like this improves a properly functioning intake tract, then I am all ears. :thumbsup: I do not have personal experience with the power now, but at least in theory it will help. Basically it increases the intake velocity at carb openings below half throttle. It pretty much fools the intake system to act like a smaller carb at partial throttle openings. Therefore, it will aid in throttle response and bottom end...there would be no top end benefits. Kind of similar to how a powervalve works, but not nearly as dramatic because it doesn't affect port timing. There are actually quite a few ways to help intake flow characteristics. One that has shown very positive results is using a honeycomb type tube in the intake tract to make the flow pattern much more laminar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullet Man Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 WTF are you all talking about? :shrug: those blades you stick in the carb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodro77 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 If you can explain the principles for how a product like this improves a properly functioning intake tract, then I am all ears. :thumbsup: can i explain principles how it works ? no i didnt build or design it , i am not an engineer , just stating that i bolted one in and it worked , gave me more throttle responce , i think too many poeple on here repeat what one guy says is garbage even though he never tried it , then all of a sudden every body says they have seen dynos that the item takes away 7 hp . not saying you firehead just in general it happens alot on here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 WTF are you all talking about? :shrug: those blades you stick in the carb? Yes, the blades you stick in the carb is what we are talking about. IMO is that this product is something that is designed to direct air flow through the carburetor. The trick is, that you shouldn't need to do that if you have a properly designed intake sytem, engine, and exhaust system (which is the case most of the time in stock form). Where this product provides "performance gains" is when you have a poorly designed or malfunctioning intake tract, engine, or exhaust, or you have modified any of those areas to such and extent that they are outside of their operational limits. It's a bandaid product in summary. Past that, by putting a device like that in your intake tract, you could potentially be reducing your engine performance levels. I say this based on the fact that air flowing over a surface at speed creates a boundary layer, which increases in size as speed increases up to the point of the speed of sound at which point the air will not flow any faster. Thus, to exaggerate a bit, the 2mm thick vanes in your intake tract are now 8mm thick conceptually. While they seem to promote this product as operation on a venturi effect, don't really buy it. On that principle, you would be just as well off sticking a cork with a hole in it in your carburetor. Maybe I'm wrong, as it was said here, I certainly do not own one of these gizmos. I am just speaking from experience (which I should have said earlier), but like I said, if somebody were to explain to me how it actually benefitted a properly tuned and functioning engine, I'd but it. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04' Black Betty Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Yes, the blades you stick in the carb is what we are talking about. IMO is that this product is something that is designed to direct air flow through the carburetor. The trick is, that you shouldn't need to do that if you have a properly designed intake sytem, engine, and exhaust system (which is the case most of the time in stock form). Where this product provides "performance gains" is when you have a poorly designed or malfunctioning intake tract, engine, or exhaust, or you have modified any of those areas to such and extent that they are outside of their operational limits. It's a bandaid product in summary. Past that, by putting a device like that in your intake tract, you could potentially be reducing your engine performance levels. I say this based on the fact that air flowing over a surface at speed creates a boundary layer, which increases in size as speed increases up to the point of the speed of sound at which point the air will not flow any faster. Thus, to exaggerate a bit, the 2mm thick vanes in your intake tract are now 8mm thick conceptually. While they seem to promote this product as operation on a venturi effect, don't really buy it. On that principle, you would be just as well off sticking a cork with a hole in it in your carburetor. Maybe I'm wrong, as it was said here, I certainly do not own one of these gizmos. I am just speaking from experience (which I should have said earlier), but like I said, if somebody were to explain to me how it actually benefitted a properly tuned and functioning engine, I'd but it. :thumbsup: Hey thanks guys didnt me to stir stuff up but, For $200 you could get alot of for sure upgrades that are proven performance gainers. thanks for all the input again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Hey thanks guys didnt me to stir stuff up but, For $200 you could get alot of for sure upgrades that are proven performance gainers. thanks for all the input again. You didn't stir anything up that did not need to be stirred up. It was definitely a good question to ask. I think if you did a search here you may find another thread or two about these things. :thumbsup: To respond to Blaster668: honeycomb tube, really? Do you honestly believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireroad Express Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 if they did work at all, theres no way in hell i'd pay what they are asking for them. come to think of it, i got an ice cube tray in my freezer that looks exactly like this product only with more partitions. i think i paid $5 for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 if they did work at all, theres no way in hell i'd pay what they are asking for them. come to think of it, i got an ice cube tray in my freezer that looks exactly like this product only with more partitions. i think i paid $5 for it. You'd better put a sticker on it and sell it on eBay for $5000, before someone else thinks of the idea. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireroad Express Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 You'd better put a sticker on it and sell it on eBay for $5000, before someone else thinks of the idea. :thumbsup: "The Cubinator"! fits in your banshees' stock air box! improves air flow to carbs 300%. going fast at $5000 a unit. get yours now. note: if running pods just put it under the seat,it has the same "turbolike" effect! all sales final! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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