endofitall9 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 anyone know where I could get a shock shaft for a 450? I got a free set of yfz shocks but one of the shocks has a borken shock shaft on it...any info ?........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeyfz Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 oem part at dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofitall9 Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 nope.yamaha only sells replacement shocks and not shock parts which is retarded...why sell rebuildable shocks if your not going to sell replacement parts for it also?..................Any know of anywhere else maybe shock builders on this board could get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'm pretty sure no one will sell you just a shock shaft for many reasons. Your best bet is buying another set of shocks off of someone on here or eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 why sell rebuildable shocks if your not going to sell replacement parts for it also? to make money. why is a company there? to make money. get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 to make money. why is a company there? to make money. get it? That and the general population is probably too retarded to replace a shock shaft. Liability is a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofitall9 Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) Yeah I see where your getting at about people not having the intellectual capacity to rebuild a shock.I mean for godsakes who likes to learn new shit anyway...excuse me if i offend the quad droople cheeseburger inventors that weigh 600lbs...no seriously though I'm not going to buy any of these shocks they were given to me and I thought well I can just rebuild this 1 and then have a complete set...If I have to drop like $200 on a set of stock shocks I'll just save that for a set of elkas............ Gimmeabeer......Makes no sense to what I said....... a company is there of course to make money.... but I have seen several busted 450 shocks and people just abandone that set to buy aftermarket because of the inablity to buy the replacement parts you need..so they would initially be making somewhat more money if they would just produce the parts needed to rebuild the 450 shocks that they claim are rebuildable in every aspect.......sheeew! Edited February 26, 2007 by endofitall9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) Yeah I see where your getting at about people not having the intellectual capacity to rebuild a shock.I mean for godsakes who likes to learn new shit anyway...excuse me if i offend the quad droople cheeseburger inventors that weigh 600lbs...no seriously though I'm not going to buy any of these shocks they were given to me and I thought well I can just rebuild this 1 and then have a complete set...If I have to drop like $200 on a set of stock shocks I'll just save that for a set of elkas............ Gimmeabeer......Makes no sense to what I said....... a company is there of course to make money.... but I have seen several busted 450 shocks and people just abandone that set to buy aftermarket because of the inablity to buy the replacement parts you need..so they would initially be making somewhat more money if they would just produce the parts needed to rebuild the 450 shocks that they claim are rebuildable in every aspect.......sheeew! If you really want to fix the shocks you can always make a replacement shaft. All it is, is a few simple turning operations, some grinding, and some chrome plating. :thumbsup: Edited February 26, 2007 by FireHead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 If you really want to fix the shocks you can always make a replacement shaft. All it is, is a few simple turning operations, some grinding, and some chrome plating. :thumbsup: OH come on! you know there is some HT that goes into a shaft. King hardens the fuck out of theirs but for 1k+ each they better. My point on the shaft issue is that the uneducated consumer will just a buy a replacement shock. my rationale is that if he/she if dumb enough to pay ~$450 for a single new one, then they are probably not bright enough to replace a shaft. and are also not bright enough to look into the aftermarket. The dealer just expolits that and reduces liability by selling them a product they know is safe, and if its not, its not their ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) OH come on! you know there is some HT that goes into a shaft. King hardens the fuck out of theirs but for 1k+ each they better. I was assuming we were starting machining with a hardened bar. Cermet insert tooling is fun to play with. :thumbsup: Edited February 26, 2007 by FireHead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofitall9 Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'm hoping someone that build shocks will chime in or something....it will be extremely hard to turn the shaft yourself and chroming the shaft costs $150 I hads to do that to my rear shock when I rebuilt it...just thought it would be a really conventional way to fix it I'm sure the shaft would cost atleast $100 but thats better than paying $200 for a set of shocks that arnt fully rebuildable.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I'm hoping someone that build shocks will chime in or something....it will be extremely hard to turn the shaft yourself and chroming the shaft costs $150 I hads to do that to my rear shock when I rebuilt it...just thought it would be a really conventional way to fix it I'm sure the shaft would cost atleast $100 but thats better than paying $200 for a set of shocks that arnt fully rebuildable.......... Speak for yourself. It would be very easy for several of us on here to make a shock shaft. As for the hard chroming, you can more than likely get it done for $20 if you can wait for another batch of parts to come through the shop that are being chromed to your specification. All my b.s. aside, I think there is a guy named Shane and aguy that owns Wolfpack racing running around here somewhere. They might be able to help you out. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 easy and hard are relative terms. Im really quite sure I could make a shaft in a day with no sweat. Probably just use drill rod, then harden, and maybe some grinding if necessary. depends on how much slack the seals would pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 easy and hard are relative terms. Im really quite sure I could make a shaft in a day with no sweat. Probably just use drill rod, then harden, and maybe some grinding if necessary. depends on how much slack the seals would pick up. Hardened drill rod that was pre-ground would be great to shaft out with. I don't know what the inside of a yfz450 shock looks like, but as long as the diameter doesn't become larger that nthe seal surface you should be all set. The threads would need to be rolled or ground after that. FYI: Generally if you are trying to seal in oil under pressure you need to be sealing against a ground surface. Otherwise, you wind up with something that it similair to the classic OEM Chevy rear main seal leak, that could only be remedied by the average mechanic by putting a sleeve on the crankshaft and an aftermarket seal (wound up being sold as a kit by Felpro). :thumbsup: How is your suspension coming by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 How is your suspension coming by the way? Going through some decisions. Im 99% sure im gonna join mini baja. They have a tubing bender and contacts with a CNC bender, so then I woulndt not need to use plate and would have wasted some hours. Not really wasted, just not used. I finally got around to taking the required tests to use one of the school's machine shops. That place sucks. I couldnt hold .010 at all. I can hold .002 at work all day, so its not me. But should be fine for boring some tube to press in a bushing. I did for a brief instant think of running 2 sealed ball bearings at the pivot locations. That would be smooth. Or use unsealed bearings with something similar to the factory dustcaps, but waaaaay tighter fit. Then run an oil bath actually in the pivot tube. WHo knows what Im gonna do. More importantly here comes spring break! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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