zpolencheck Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I bought some new a arms off ebay. they are aftermarket chrome,+2+1 never installed and came with ball joints and tie rods. The guy said he did not know what brand they were, and the only place to buy ball joints that fit were hydrodynamics. I tried going to that website to see if i could track down the brand but that website wouldnt work for some reason (ishock.com) Anyways, they bolted up just fine, BUT the spindles have to be completly upside down in order for the shaft (hub shaft) to be even; otherwise it points way towards the floor. The stock spindle is longer on one part than the other, which is why it works one way but not the other, but with it upside down the tie rods will not bolt to the arm on the spindle. What is wrong? do I need aftermarket spindles specifically for them? I have never heard of this before. I tried everything to get them to work but they just dont. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselTech Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I bought some new a arms off ebay. they are aftermarket chrome,+2+1 never installed and came with ball joints and tie rods. The guy said he did not know what brand they were, and the only place to buy ball joints that fit were hydrodynamics. I tried going to that website to see if i could track down the brand but that website wouldnt work for some reason (ishock.com) Anyways, they bolted up just fine, BUT the spindles have to be completly upside down in order for the shaft (hub shaft) to be even; otherwise it points way towards the floor. The stock spindle is longer on one part than the other, which is why it works one way but not the other, but with it upside down the tie rods will not bolt to the arm on the spindle. What is wrong? do I need aftermarket spindles specifically for them? I have never heard of this before. I tried everything to get them to work but they just dont. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Can you post some pics so we can see what you mean? This may help us to help you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpolencheck Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 well I tried to upload them on here but it wouldnt let me. someone please send me your email address and I will send the pics to you and then you can post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 use www.bikepics.com or some other image hosting site.. if we get some pics we can definitely figure out whats wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpolencheck Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 no luck there, I do not have an account. With the a arms it almost seems as if they sent plus 3 uppar a arms and plus 2 lower a arms. Are the top ones longer than the bottom ones on aftermarket a arms? Also, if someone sends me their email address I will definetly send them pics right away. use www.bikepics.com or some other image hosting site.. if we get some pics we can definitely figure out whats wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 no luck there, I do not have an account. With the a arms it almost seems as if they sent plus 3 uppar a arms and plus 2 lower a arms. Are the top ones longer than the bottom ones on aftermarket a arms? Also, if someone sends me their email address I will definetly send them pics right away. Do you have the upper and lower a-arms switched? Are you sure the arms are for a Banshee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpolencheck Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 it is impossible to do that, they bolt up entirely different. Yes they are for a banshee, they bolted up 100 percent ok, it is just the spindles that do not bolt up correctly. It can only be 2 problems: needs aftermarket/special spindles, or the upper a-arms are too wide (possibly mixed up at orginal manufacturer). Do you have the upper and lower a-arms switched? Are you sure the arms are for a Banshee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 it is impossible to do that, they bolt up entirely different. Yes they are for a banshee, they bolted up 100 percent ok, it is just the spindles that do not bolt up correctly. It can only be 2 problems: needs aftermarket/special spindles, or the upper a-arms are too wide (possibly mixed up at orginal manufacturer). No, no you could potentially have other problems than what you stated. The likely hood of you needing special spindles is near 0%. The upper a-arms could certainly be incorrect, but so could the lower a-arms. That's why I was asking if you were sure the arms are for Banshee, there are several other arms for different bikes that look like they might fit and may even bolt up ok. It is not impossible to bolt up the arms qrong if you are creative and properly motivated. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpolencheck Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 well one of the lower a arms came with half of a peeled off sticker that said "banshee Right" for the right side. I am guessing the lower a arms are right because when I hold my stock ones up to them they are about 1 inch wider per side, hence the plus 2 of course. When I hold the stock upper a arms to the aftermarket a arms they are quite a bit wide, maybe 2 inches. I didn't THINK they would make special spindles for them but you never know, some companies do that stuff just so you have to buy more stuff from them. It is going to be impossible to find just upper +2+1 a arms like that in chrome so I am running out of ideas. I tried everything and every which way to get them to fit, nothing seemed to work. Have you ever seen a arms for a banshee that were longer on top than bottom? No, no you could potentially have other problems than what you stated. The likely hood of you needing special spindles is near 0%. The upper a-arms could certainly be incorrect, but so could the lower a-arms. That's why I was asking if you were sure the arms are for Banshee, there are several other arms for different bikes that look like they might fit and may even bolt up ok. It is not impossible to bolt up the arms qrong if you are creative and properly motivated. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick2stroke Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 It was my understanding that +2 a arms were indeed just that, +2" per side. Sounds like your lowers may be too short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHead Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 It was my understanding that +2 a arms were indeed just that, +2" per side. Sounds like your lowers may be too short That sounds like the case. I have never heard of anyone besides some of the drag races making custom spindles and even they, they are rarely a different geometry. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpolencheck Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 thanks very much, I guess I will try to track down the brand and call the company. That sounds like the case. I have never heard of anyone besides some of the drag races making custom spindles and even they, they are rarely a different geometry. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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