Lethaface Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey guys. had a few questions running into my mind while doing a search.. I have been doing a frame up build on my 99 banshee since about september.. I have been buying parts week to week and just slowly getting it all together..I have made sure to get all the common must haves like the longer swinger, Barnett clutch with toomey springs and even went as far as replacing all Bearings, seals orings, and even the Flywheel key and keyway.. So, my new 36mm TMX carbs came in last week and it's got me wondering if my stock petcock is going to give me enough fuel..In case it matters i'm running 110 octane with 17cc domes..My big concern is running the bowls dry on long straights.. My riding basically consists of fire lanes and i'm gonna try and hit the local 1/8th a couple times a month.. I've read a little bit about people using fuel pumps but wasn't exactly sure how that would work on the banshee..I've also read a few mixed reviews on the pingel..If a pingle is needed would it need to be used in conjunction with the fuel pump?? If there needed i don't mind at all delaying the completion by a paycheck or 2 i really just don't wanna blow it up on it's debut date lol..Any help is much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshee03 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 i'd go with the dual feed pingel and unless your running alky i would'nt worry about the fuel pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 How long is a long run? I ran 35PWKs on mine, with a power jet...never came close to running out of gas.... I think you should put a powerjet on them, then a fuel pump....that way when you jump to alky, all you gotta do is drill the carbs...LOL. Seriously, you should be fine. Worst comes to worse, remove one of the floats in each carb.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Just make sure that the gas cap you are using flows enough air and you should be fine. Running your bike out of fuel can be disastrous fast, but it's awful nice to keep your reserve just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Shit, I forgot to type that...gut your gas cap...good call Od. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 is it me,but 17cc domes are for alky right,i mean the cub will run on 17cc i know that,but not as reliable,atleast thats what i was told by the BIG GUNS.gas just gets to hot .............. :: :: :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 is it me,but 17cc domes are for alky right,i mean the cub will run on 17cc i know that,but not as reliable,atleast thats what i was told by the BIG GUNS.gas just gets to hot .............. :: :: :biggrin: just remember elevation plays a big roll.iam in cali so maybe the smaller domes only apply to the guys that are at sea level. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Thanks guys.. I would run alky but honestly there is no place i know of to get it here..The nearest speed shop to me is probably 120 miles away..Just to put it in perspective for you guys, the fastest atv in this town that everybody always tell's me is going to beat me is a Honda 450R thats piped/cam'd..People are more into mud here i guess..When i took my cub and crank to the local shop i felt like i was delivering Fire to the first cave men lol..They were in ahhh to say the least. Dave, A good run honestly varries..I'm thinking the most would be a mile becuase some of the firelanes are pretty long/open..Of course all of that mile isn't with the throttle pinned or anything but there is alot of open spaces..So probably a honest guesstimation would be 1/4 mile pinned at the very most As far as the domes i am at 2,000 feet elevation, so if i'm not mistaken thats at about 185-190lbs of compression..Majic performance warned me about them so if i end up with to much compression then i'll go to a 18cc dome.. My last motor was a dune/drag port, stock stroke with 17cc domes and by the time i was done i ended up with 175lbs of compression..My mistake buying the 17cc domes this time for the cub is i didn't take into acount the bigger piston and longer stroke making more compression..I'm hopeing that with only the 4degree timing advance and running the 110 detonation won't be a issue.. So Dual Feed pingel should be sufficent?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Just an idea, that might save you some money... I've seen guys mount another stock petcock on the other side of the tank and run a single line to each carb. Pretty simple way to make your own pingel. Just an idea. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hey I've heard of that too, but is there a threaded inset for the bolts to attach it. I've never looked, but then again it probably wouldn't be a good idea for me because my luck I would jump on and forget to open both of them and F!@$*? something up............. :yelrotflmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I ran 185PSI and a ton of timing on my cub, you'll be fine with 110. Pingel might not be a bad idea if you're going to hold it wide open for 1/4 mile... The problem with fuel pump is you can't just run 'em with normal carbs...you need to have carbs designed to run a fuel pump, the needle and seat are totally different. (It's what I got for my 10 mil running alky) I'd say remove a float for more volume, but...if you put a pingel and remove a float, you'd definately be safe on gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malott 1 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 The price of a pingle would be nothing compared to the price of melting the topend down. For me it would just be peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Yeah i agree..It's worth it, to do it right imo i just didn't wanna pay the $80 for something that really wasn't needed..I believe i will remove a float bowl and order the pingel just to be safe..Thanks fellas :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 A guy has one for sale on here, 55 shipped I think...take a closer look!! http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72468 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hey thanks alot for the help dave..The pingel is gonna have to wait a few weeks till i can budget it a little better..I just wanted to get all my eggs in a basket so i wouldn't have any issues after its all together..I think now everything is pretty much covered!! Anyways thanks for the help fellas.. Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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