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I recently got ahold of some stock carbs that had aftermarket caps on them, but did not have the idle screws installed. After doing some searching, I found a couple forum posts and eBay auctions where people had not installed the screws and claimed their bike was running fine. My question is: Do you have to install the idle screws? If you do, what is the tap size you need for them? (I could figure that out myself, but it's easier to ask). :whistling:

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I recently got ahold of some stock carbs that had aftermarket caps on them, but did not have the idle screws installed. After doing some searching, I found a couple forum posts and eBay auctions where people had not installed the screws and claimed their bike was running fine. My question is: Do you have to install the idle screws? If you do, what is the tap size you need for them? (I could figure that out myself, but it's easier to ask). :whistling:

 

All the idel screw does is keeps the slide from bottoming out in the carb. The screw is like a false bottom and you can adjust the heigth of the slide with the screw to make adjust the amount of air entering the carb..If you order the screws it will come with the correct tap.

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All the idel screw does is keeps the slide from bottoming out in the carb. The screw is like a false bottom and you can adjust the heigth of the slide with the screw to make adjust the amount of air entering the carb..If you order the screws it will come with the correct tap.

 

Let me add some addtitional informatio to this: I already have a set of screws from a set of carbs that cracked. (A)I was wondering what the tap size was? (B)I know what the throttle screws do, I just wasn't sure if I needed them since folks seem to be running around without them. ©This setup is just something to get by until my triple is done. :thumbsup:

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That answers part of my question. Now I just need someone to answer the most important part. Will they run fin without installing the idle screws? I mean if you just unplug your TORS, your bike works properly doesn't it? :confused:

 

 

Unplugging the TORS only disables it, you still have the idle adjustment on top of the TORS crap that's on top of the carbs. I don't really see how it'd idle good w/o the screw in but I guess some people get lucky.

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That answers part of my question. Now I just need someone to answer the most important part. Will they run fin without installing the idle screws? I mean if you just unplug your TORS, your bike works properly doesn't it? :confused:

I would think that it would run (& idol if you adj your cable enough, if that is possible?) or you keep your thumb on the throttle all the time? :thumbsup:

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I would think that it would run (& idol if you adj your cable enough, if that is possible?) or you keep your thumb on the throttle all the time? :thumbsup:

 

troo,. after I did mine i found there was still enough adjustment that I could have just pulled the cable up farther with the adjustment screw on the cap to open the slides,. but if the cable ever stretches..... with srews theyll never move.

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That all makes sense. It looks like I will be drilling and tapping some holes, all the while wondering what the people who do not do this were thinking when they installed a kit like this without the idol screws.

 

I think the key piece if information I was missing was that there was an idle adjustment on the TORS. I never had them on any of my bikes, so I really don't know much about them. :ninja:

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That all makes sense. It looks like I will be drilling and tapping some holes, all the while wondering what the people who do not do this were thinking when they installed a kit like this without the idol screws.

 

the kit that I got didnt include the screws,. I had to order them from toomey. So alot of people might have assumed that they didnt need em if they got a kit without screws.

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That all makes sense. It looks like I will be drilling and tapping some holes, all the while wondering what the people who do not do this were thinking when they installed a kit like this without the idol screws.

 

the kit that I got didnt include the screws,. I had to order them from toomey. So alot of people might have assumed that they didnt need em if they got a kit without screws.

 

That makes sense. I was looking at eBay and it seems that alot of the carbs for sale that have the TORS elimination kit installed do not have idle screws installed in them. It makes you wonder if all of these folks are riding around with bikes that don't idle properly.

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I have seen them run with and without the idle screws. They are intended to run with them, otherwise if you just adjust your idle with the screw on the top of your carb top you are taking all the slack out of your cable and when you do that it is possible that when you turn your bike to the right as far as it will go it will cause the bike to rev up. (not good)

 

So yes Firehead it will run properly and you can adjust the idle without the screws but not the correct way and not the safe way.

 

Oh also Firehead if you haven't done the idle screw installment before you are gonna have to sand your carb body down some so the jam nut on the idle screw will sit against the carb flat. The carbs from stock have an agled face and all you have to do is make it flat. From your previous posts on here I know you shouldn't have a problem with this, I was just giving you the heads up if you didn't already know.

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okay i have a question... i have a set of carbs that have the idle screws in them but i have no caps and i don't think i have the cable. i have a ton of the TORS tops with the cables attached. i think i even have one set where the tors boxes where taken off the cables (not exactly sure). my questions are this: can i just get the caps and use the stock cable minus the tors boxes? or do i have to buy a new cable?

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okay i have a question... i have a set of carbs that have the idle screws in them but i have no caps and i don't think i have the cable. i have a ton of the TORS tops with the cables attached. i think i even have one set where the tors boxes where taken off the cables (not exactly sure). my questions are this: can i just get the caps and use the stock cable minus the tors boxes? or do i have to buy a new cable?

 

you will have to buy a new cable, cause the stock cable is meant to thread into the tors box, where the cable you need once you put the different tops on will be like any other cable and just slide through the carb topper.

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