GEEZR Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I was just curious as to how long I can store unused premix gas before it starts getting weird .(octane decreases over time when mixed w/2cycle oil). I remember starting up my shee and riding it around for about 10 minutes, and it ran like crap with about a 1/4 tank of 6 month old gas. Then I put in a fresh batch of 32:1 with 91 octane as usual and it ran awsome. I'm sure premix will chemically change over time, but it's less than 6 months, I think. That's OK, I just use the old gas in my lawn mower (the unforgiving Briggs & Stratten 4poke) :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txblueshee Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I'll never use premix that's over a month old... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 if i have any left i dont keep it much more than 3 or 4 weeks. then its used on the weeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think you have a serious problem if you have premix that sits around that long. I suggest you ride more. I don't think I ever have tanks of any kinda fuel around for more than 2 weeks without needing to be refilled. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbAnyHill Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I would agree, the fresh gas smell starts to decrease in a few weeks. I had some mix from a couple months back & wasn't getting good throttle response. Next day I whooped up a fresh mix on 92 pump & It's a huge difference.. Now get that immediate response when ripping at the throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrmel Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 it depends on compression and timing as well as elevation. if you are not running on the ragged edge of compression and timing then youre premix can afford to lose some of its octane rating and still provide enough detonation resistance to keep you from blowing a hole in youre piston. personally with these hot florida weather and my compression and timing i wont use premix in my banshee thats over 1 month old. i use it up in the weedwacker, chainsaw, blower and i will also sell it/give it away to family that has 2 cycle lawn equipment. finally as a last resort my car. i have seen my dad use year old 97 octane premix in his chainsaw. that thing would ping really bad if you let the rpm's drop too low or used too much throttle. personally i hate seeing people do stuff like that but hey i cant save the world i can only do what i think is best for my stuff. the banshee scares me because the exhaust and intake is so loud i dont believe i would be able to hear it detonating. therefore i figure its better to be safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Yeah, mine usually gets put in my weedeater or my lawnmower.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodro77 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I was just curious as to how long I can store unused premix gas before it starts getting weird .(octane decreases over time when mixed w/2cycle oil). I remember starting up my shee and riding it around for about 10 minutes, and it ran like crap with about a 1/4 tank of 6 month old gas. Then I put in a fresh batch of 32:1 with 91 octane as usual and it ran awsome. I'm sure premix will chemically change over time, but it's less than 6 months, I think. That's OK, I just use the old gas in my lawn mower (the unforgiving Briggs & Stratten 4poke) :biggrin: it doesnt decrease because it is mixed with 2 cycle oil , octane decreases because its stored in a plastic tank, if you store it in a metal tank it will keep its octane for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMAC Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Metal gas cans is the way to go. especially with the price of gas :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Race fuel around here has additives to keep it fresh longer...but, I don't like running fuel older than a month or two. After that, it's lawnmower, weedeater and/or snowblower fuel!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMAC Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Dont bite my head off but could you add octane booste to old gas to bring it back? :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) it doesnt decrease because it is mixed with 2 cycle oil , octane decreases because its stored in a plastic tank, if you store it in a metal tank it will keep its octane for a long time. Exactly. Light, humidity and temperature are gasolines enemies. A sealed metal can is the best place to store gas in, and keep the can out of the sun somewhere cool. Race gas and av gas both have additives that make sure the gas stays fresh longer. Personally I don't worry about it. I ride enough that the longest my tank has the same gas is a few weeks, and the cans never have gas more than a month. (I use av gas) Edited January 16, 2007 by dawarriorman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 i let my premix sit at least 3 months before i use it. when it gels up it lubes the cylinder better and i get an extra 500 rpm.. :biggrin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEEZR Posted January 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks for these tips, folks. Looks like I'm gonna use my 5 gal. plastic jugs for lawn mowers and weed whackers. GMAC , I was just gett'n ready to ask that same question, octane boost as a compensator. It's very rare that I leave any gas in my tank , I try to ride to the very last drop. I've just been too busy the last 6 months and just thought I'd fire up the shee with the little extra fuel that was left over in the tank , perfomance sucked :: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimbAnyHill Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 You can also buy & add gas stabilizer to keep that gas fresh :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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