bansheepartsguy Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 H i everyone. I have a few questions to ask. They might sound like common sence questons but I have asked around my group of riding buddies and noone can give me an answer that sounds legit. So here goes. What is the difference between an Aero tubing swingarm, say its 10" over, and a ladder style swingarm the same length. swingarms By looking at them it's obvious to see the ladder style has more metal than the aerotubing swingarm so it must weigh more. Assuming that they are both chromoly, I would imagime that the aeroarm would be plenty strong and I wouldn't be jumping it so why the big beefy ladder style swingarms? Also if you can get away without running the shock linkage why would you? Does it really make that big of difference? I know this is the drag forum but I will be riding this in the sand. This bike is strictly a hillshooter (10 mil trinity big bore). I know I am just bombarding everyone here but this is where i'm at on my project and I want to buy the best one the first time. Any help would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheefreak Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 It makes a big difference as far as the ride goes between the link and no link. If it is strictly a sand hill shooter I would probably go direct link. Traction will be a little better this way. But if there are nasty whoops where you are hill shooting you should probably keep the link. I cannot tell you the strength differences between the ladder and the aerotube style. I happen to have a ladder style and is still very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 The ladder tube would be solely for drag on smooth surface. It states it is thin walled for wieght reduction and probably requires the laddering for added strength. The aerotube you should be able to do anything with. Aerotube is the strongest design of all tubing of same materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheepartsguy Posted January 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thanks, I think i'll start looking for an aeroarm. I appreciate the help. Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 You might want to look at my post about my +8 LSR swinger over in the images section. If you ever plan on leaving the ground, even just a little bit... get something bigger and stronger. I broke the shit out of my +8 LSR swinger by doing a little 2ft jump out in the dunes. I've got their +2+1 heim joint a-arms though and they seem to be pretty good quality. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hillshooting, I'd definitely run a link style and have your stock rear shock revalved for your weight and swingarm length. Personally, I look for gussets from the shock mount to the main tubes as well as down by the carrier (check out lonestar racing's website and you'll see what I mean with their standard swingarms). Some people pay a pile of money to shed any weight possible off the bike though, so it's really your call and preference. Myself, the last thing I wanna worry about is a mechanical failure doing 60+ MPH up a whoopy hill. Good luck, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23champ Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 the ladder bar style is also for higher hp bikes. The ladder design prevents the swingarm from twisting under chain torque. A lot of drive chains are thrown from chain torque twisting the swingarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshee Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I really like this style that my banshee has. May be a little heavier, but it is tough, and looks nice IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragginduner350 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 H i everyone. I have a few questions to ask. They might sound like common sence questons but I have asked around my group of riding buddies and noone can give me an answer that sounds legit. So here goes. What is the difference between an Aero tubing swingarm, say its 10" over, and a ladder style swingarm the same length. swingarms By looking at them it's obvious to see the ladder style has more metal than the aerotubing swingarm so it must weigh more. Assuming that they are both chromoly, I would imagime that the aeroarm would be plenty strong and I wouldn't be jumping it so why the big beefy ladder style swingarms? Also if you can get away without running the shock linkage why would you? Does it really make that big of difference? I know this is the drag forum but I will be riding this in the sand. This bike is strictly a hillshooter (10 mil trinity big bore). I know I am just bombarding everyone here but this is where i'm at on my project and I want to buy the best one the first time. Any help would be great. This is a pic of my ladder type swingarm. My buddy and I built this one in Phx, Az and I use it for everything. Olds Hill at Glamis,Ca Or in the Dunes in Idaho. It doesnt really matter what type of swingarm you use really. This one weighs only 7.25 lbs. Chromoly .120 wall tubing. Ive jumped with this one also. It just really depands on your choice of swingarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstdrag Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 i dunno if he,s read this post,,but anyways quick 16 would be a good guy to ask this question too he,s chassis designer/builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowriderb Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 the areo tube arms are strong for straight lines, the side to side flex on those are the weak points.. the ladder style can be braced for most beating, but i never went off anything huge with the 10 over i used to have.. some minor jumps in oklahoma when i got to go.. with bearing and pivot tube in the one i had weighed in right at 7lbs.. mostly both are used for drag racing.. the strongest style that ive seen that will take the most amount of abuse is the round tube style swing arms.. they are a little heavier but its worth the strength.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheepartsguy Posted January 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 This is a pic of my ladder type swingarm. My buddy and I built this one in Phx, Az and I use it for everything. Olds Hill at Glamis,Ca Or in the Dunes in Idaho. It doesnt really matter what type of swingarm you use really. This one weighs only 7.25 lbs. Chromoly .120 wall tubing. Ive jumped with this one also. It just really depands on your choice of swingarm. This is what we mean by ladder type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheepartsguy Posted January 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I really only plan on hill shooting this bike. it is going to be bare bones. As light as I can get it. I think the aero-arm will be plenty strong for what i plan on doing. i found a guy on ebay that sells them in whatever size you want with you choice of stock or 40mm carrier, chrome and chromoly for $455. They are pretty sweet. Let me know what you guys think...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/banshee-swi...079718180QQrdZ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheepartsguy Posted January 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 This is what we mean by ladder type. Nice arm though. Great craftsmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowriderb Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I really only plan on hill shooting this bike. it is going to be bare bones. As light as I can get it. I think the aero-arm will be plenty strong for what i plan on doing. i found a guy on ebay that sells them in whatever size you want with you choice of stock or 40mm carrier, chrome and chromoly for $455. They are pretty sweet. Let me know what you guys think...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/banshee-swi...079718180QQrdZ1 if its only going to be hill shooting the two different arms your talking about would be fine.. chromoly is the type of material the arms are made of.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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