So, how 'bout that Kramer?

[Fireman-hott]

going on a screaming tirade suggesting we go back to the days when 'niggers' were strung upside down and anally violated.

Uh he said "50 years ago you'd be strung upside down with a fork up your ass."

Dont see how that means he wishes the US went back to that.

Also he's called a crackerass motherfucker too.

And no not opening the door for a biker but for on old lady is the EXACT same thing as the racism your using. What if it was a black biker and a white old woman does that work? Instead of white/white.

 

Losing arguement on both sides

[Brooke]

Uh he said "50 years ago you'd be strung upside down with a fork up your ass."

Dont see how that means he wishes the US went back to that.

Also he's called a crackerass motherfucker too.

And no not opening the door for a biker but for on old lady is the EXACT same thing as the racism your using. What if it was a black biker and a white old woman does that work? Instead of white/white.

 

Losing arguement on both sides

i wouldnt open the door for any stranger in the middle of the night. bikers dont scare me. some of my best friends are big scary looking bikers. and gee, if i wasnt so non judgemental about people of all kinds i would never have known them.

 

i cant believe you people are sticking up for racism.

[23champ]

Yeah, its bad for the white man to be racist isnt it....Look around, Blacks are WAY more racist than whites. All black schools, all black churches, all black this, all black that.....

 

finger pointin m/f's

 

What would happen if there were to be an all WHITE school!!! oh boy, shit would hit the fan wouldn't it?

 

Just like katrina, Bush didnt send the entire fucking army to LA within 8hrs of the hurricane stike, so now HE"S racist right? Bullshit. I'm tired of this "I'm the fuckin victim shit". First of all, if you had a fuckin brain you would have vacated the area, and no one would have to save your black ass. Now that we feel sorry for ya and send rescue helicopters in to save your ass, and you open fire on the people that are tryin to help you....WTF?

Edited November 24, 2006 by 23champ

[Brooke]

I have said repeatedly, ALL racism is bad. no matter who its coming from. I hate black racists too. but you can't complain about being the victim of racism when you're participating in it yourself. you're all a bunch of hypocrits. I can't stand the whole katrina bullshit. I can't stand racist sepratists like jesse jackson. I could go on and on. but the fact is, you're no better than the ones you're complaining about because youre doing the same shit. I can't stop laughing about whoever it was complaining about the shitty neighborhood he lives in with all the white haters. with his racist attitude and behaviors he seems to fit in there just fine lol!

 

if some black dude walked up to me and called me a cracker, I wouldn't use that incident to justify any racist behavior on my part. I have no desire to condemn people I don't know based on that idiot's behavior.

 

this whole thread is pretty fucking sad. I know mexicans, blacks, chinese etc who are all pillars of their communities and I guarantee they are NOT exceptions of the norm. I know I sure as hell don't want to be judged as a white person based on all of you. what a fucking embarassment.

[enFORCER]

I have said repeatedly, you're all a bunch of hypocrits.

 

this whole thread is pretty fucking sad. I know I sure as hell don't want to be judged as a white person based on all of you. what a fucking embarassment.

 

blue wasnt being coy at all, he was being pretty fucking direct. i can respect direct, i cant respect coy and passive aggressive. he says whats on his mind

 

Haha, wow you are a two face. If its someone you like, and they are preaching hate and violence, it's OK because they are "speaking their mind." But oh if someone say's something you don't like it's racism and an embarrassment?

Hahahahah, your the only embarrassment around here scary mary. :yucky:

[dajogejr]

exactly but only in america do we bent over backwards to make it better for everyone else but the americans.

sure dont want to offend any people. by making them speaking english.

 

It's not very often, Wes...but for once I very strongly agree with you on this point.

It's unfortunate that this country is becoming (has become) a place where you can not only bake your cake...but eat it too....

 

 

Climb any hill....I might have taken it too far, but...it is what it is. When you give someone an inch, they take the yard...

 

It is everyone's country....but we shouldn't have to bend over backwards to accommodate everyone...

[RNBRAD]

brad, youre a smart guy. there is a big difference between not opening the door for a stranger in the middle of the night, and going on a screaming tirade suggesting we go back to the days when 'niggers' were strung upside down and anally violated. then repeatedly yelling "LOOK THERES A NIGGER LOOK THERES A NIGGER" thats disgusting.

 

feeling wary about a certain type of person is different than accepting and spreading a hateful violent dehumanizing view of an entire race. i might not open the door for the strange man in the middle of the night, but im certainly not gonna run around making blanket assumptions and spreading hateful things about him.

 

I was just giving some examples of how racisim is manifested (different forms, and why?) in our every day lives. I absolutely do not condone his actions in any way but racism and prejudice are all around us. Our inhibitions to control our feelings and keep them in check make us who we really are. Some people are unable to do that very well such as the case with Kramer. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just delving a little deeper into the subjest than just taking it as face value. It really gives people something to think about. :wink:

[23champ]

I can't stop laughing about whoever it was complaining about the shitty neighborhood he lives in with all the white haters. with his racist attitude and behaviors he seems to fit in there just fine lol!

 

When I walked outside and every person on the street stared at me and made racial comments, I too would prolly hate the people that were doing it. but I guess that would be wrong wouldnt it?

 

He should just invite them all over for dinner shouldn't he?

[Nelsonmandela27]

alright everyone i dont even want to read all this retarded racial fighting but heres my opinion theres a difference between blacks and niggers and i have no problem with black people but i dont like niggers(theives, rapists, murderers and so on). but its not just african americans who have undesirables giving them a bad name, theres white trash, illegal aliens, and everyone else who has problems. i guess my point is dont get hung up on race, at least thats where i think im goin with this

Edited November 24, 2006 by Nelsonmandela27

[ClimbAnyHill]

too many different people all together in one forum will get ya all these different thoughts & opinions how they feel. some will like them, some won't. back to the title of this thread how 'bout that Kramer? He was wrong, he did bad & I didn't like it. I'm done with this thread.

Let's jump over to a diff thread & talk about somethin quad related!

[RIPPEN]

EVERYONE AND I MEAN EVERYONE is racist in some way shape or form... If some of you belive that your not, you may just be to damn dumb to figure out how your racist. I as a whole I would say Iam not.. I don't run around picking on the minority and throwing out slures all day.. However when Iam working(construction) I get VERY pissed at the mentality of some of the "minority's". Almost every construction job here is SATURATED with mexicans.. I have met a few and have really liked them. They show their green card with pride and some have said they are going to school to learn english. One even said to me in rough english.. "Not in Mexico no more, need to speak english" I couldn't belive my ears. If all had a attitude like this guy there wouldn't be nearly the problem.. But just as there are good ones there are the bad that walk around with a attitude talking shit on america and I cant help myself but think, "F-in beaners"..

In this thread Brooke I don't think your seeing the forest through the trees... This Kramer shit is small cookies to what really goes on.. Some have said what he did was outta line, HOWEVER this brings up a much bigger fish to fry and I think thats what many people are hitting on..

So Brooke, my question to you would be..

How come its only considered racism only when coming from a white man?

How come when some of the black poloticians say that the white man needs to be exterminated its not racism?

How come the black man in the crowed yelling "cracker ass motherfucker" in the croud is not racist?

How come the black man threating him was not considered assult based on "hate"?

You say oh its not right comming from anyone... Your right, so how come its only a big deal when said by a white man?

My point is there is a much bigger world than that comedy club.. This shit goes on ALL THE TIME FROM EVERY DIRRECTION. Iam for one getting sick of all the "he racist and she racist" but only when they are white shit.

The "minority's" want equality??? Great, more power to them, we owe them that and not a F-ING thing more... I for one didn't own and bennifit from slavery, why do I owe them anything? You see Brooke, in todays world me a pasty little you are becoming the minority.. When do you and I stop getting penalized and start getting equality for being white?

 

RIPPEN

[Brooke]

RIPPEN, you obviously didnt read all my posts or you wouldnt ask me those questions.

[RIPPEN]

RIPPEN, you obviously didnt read all my posts or you wouldnt ask me those questions.

No.. I belive I did.. Your saying all racism is wrong.. Iam saying weather you admit it or not everyone to some degree posses racism within them.. But that seems to be one thing you wont admit? Iam just trying the shed some light on the hypocrosy(sp). Kramer IMO was wrong to a degree but no more wrong than the black man that called him names. Also I would REALLY like to know what was said before the vid that was posted started rollin....

 

RIPPEN

[Brooke]

No.. I belive I did.. Your saying all racism is wrong.. Iam saying weather you admit it or not everyone to some degree posses racism within them.. But that seems to be one thing you wont admit? Iam just trying the shed some light on the hypocrosy(sp). Kramer IMO was wrong to a degree but no more wrong than the black man that called him names. Also I would REALLY like to know what was said before the vid that was posted started rollin....

 

RIPPEN

none of that makes racism right. all i see is a bunch of people making a lot of excuses to be racist.

 

the fact is, 'kramer' has been known to have a heated temper and inappropriate racist views. youre all so quick to make excuses for him. its been all over the news that he started yelling at that group of people first telling them to shut up and stop interrupting not because they were heckling at him, but because they were a big group of 20, mixed races, ordering dinner and the waitress was standing there trying to get everyones order when he went off on his rant.

 

the only reason i am being so hard on 'the white man' racist is because THATS WHAT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED ABOUT. i donno how many fucking times i have to say i hate the black brown and whatever other color racists there are. there are some things that dont need to be delved into deeply. racism is wrong. what he did was wrong. period. stop making excuses for him and for yourselves. buncha hypocrites.

[PUSH THE THROTTLE]

Your saying all racism is wrong..

You can't hardly be arguing that fact can you?

 

Kramer IMO was wrong to a degree but no more wrong than the black man that called him names.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Kramer should have stood the higher ground, he didn't. As a comedian if he had a problem with the guy he should have humiliated him without insulting him. Nothing would have been better than Kramer getting everyone in the room laughing at the guy. Wit and intelligence are much more effective than hate and stupidity.

 

Also I would REALLY like to know what was said before the vid that was posted started rollin....

What did cause Kramers rant anyway? What did the guy say?

Edited November 25, 2006 by PUSH THE THROTTLE