Ohton Racing Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Charlie, Don Sterling owns the chassis that Jim's Sand Toys sent to him. Not sure who owned it before, but it was not bought directly from Damian. It was purchased from a guy off of planet sand and then shipped by Jim. It's the curvy chassis. The chassis that was bought directly from Damian is the chassis that Jeff owns. From what I know, the chassis Don has was a roller right when he got it. Just want to clarify that. thats cool smoknbanshee, that still means the whole mad customer story he gave damien and the phone call from a girl was a fake phone conversation since it maybe jeffs own chassis. maybe he just needed spare rod ends! sorry that was just kinda funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choosetolose04 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Charlie, I need a rigid chassis built for a DS. Are you interested? :thumbsup: There is always two sides to every story...... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohton Racing Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Charlie, I need a rigid chassis built for a DS. Are you interested? :thumbsup: There is always two sides to every story...... :wink: We have a chassis that is completley done except for motor mounts, we were waiting on a guy that was going to buy it for a Snowmobile engine. Since we have not heard from him it is available right now. I can fabricate in the engine and add some brackets for your other items. We have a CNC Plasma Cutter so all the brackets and tabs we do here now. charlie@ohton.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choosetolose04 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Email has been sent. I'll be awaiting a reply. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNANGE CRUSH Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 (edited) first of charlie i thought this was over and we where all moving on you are the one with the guity conscient thats way you cant let this go bottom line you did not deliever on or deal that you made with me in may i did not get all the parts you did send me a money order for the parts at your cost you price to me was for the compleat deal you sweeten it with the wheel from lone star so paid you in cash right up front i did not make you wait for the money and i did not rush you you are the one that said your parts where on there way when they wher god only knows where and they got lost and how meney more excuess you gave bottom line you should have just giving me my parts lone star told me the wheel was $500 I DID NOT BUY IT and never said i did i did say that it has cost me more then $421 as for thi steel compeny that you are talking about i know nothing about do not drag me in to something that has nothing to do do with me do not change the subject this post was about you and me i will not stup to a lower level and drag peaple in to this you your self have sent me pms i will not bring them out to the open as you have ask me not to now jeff got into this to try and help me you and him have clashed big time if you want to go back and forth with jeff go ahead but thats between you and him you have banned me from planet sand and the the planet sand race thats fine you have done this becuse you did not take care of your customer and for no other reason and if you had just did what you said this would have never happend this is your falt not mine i am done with this i will not say a nother word about it you no iam right Edited November 25, 2006 by ORNANGE CRUSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohton Racing Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 no need for me to create more havoc with you, but you did say you purchased the wheel for $500 and you wanted money, I am saying once again, how much may I send you since you really did not buy the wheel as you said? Are you going to send me receipts on the other stuff? Come on the wheel is not $500, if it is then buy it and send me the receipt from Lonestar and I will pay you the difference. I am willing to take care of you dollar wise, but you need to send me those receipts! Since I am willing to send you cash then there is no reason why you would not want to send the receipts! Here is the facts, I pay cost on the heim joints, radiator you purchased the billet wheel for $100 seperate from the chassis which it states on your receipt. I refunded you $275 on the radiator, heim joints and tie rods $46, and $100 for the seperate purchase on the wheel. you are wanting me to pay you full retail for all the parts including the seperate purchase of the billet wheel. I have already refunded you the cost of parts of $421, now you want more, so I say how much? send me those receipts and I will overnight you the difference. I only banned you form PS because you have stated in public forums that I fucked you in your ass without a HUG! why wouldnt I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynodon Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Now, I have not said anything deragatory to you Charlie !!, So why would you try to throw me under the bus here??? My chassis deal was a long time ago, It came from Jim @ Jim`s sand toys. The chassis was cut By Damien, and welded By Cody taylor ( thats what Damien told me over the phone anyway), But the bottom line is that, that chassis in question ( from Quick 16) is NOT mine, never claimed it was. My chassis came complete with all the heim joints ( polished) so LEAVE me out of it !!!!! I tried to make amends with you last night, and put this all behind all of us. But now you throw me undeer the bus !?!?! Whatever happened with the heim joints is between Jeff and Damien, Absolutely nothing to do with me. I said I would stay out, so leave me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohton Racing Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 You are right, you have been a gentleman don, I was referring to last months post. sorry to bring up old stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoknbanshee Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 wow, I tried..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNANGE CRUSH Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 all am asking for is the wheel from you thats it if you want to make it right by me send me the wheel as the other parts have allmost been covered by the $421 i never wanted any of this to happen i just wanted my parts thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshechick344 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 all am asking for is the wheel from you thats it if you want to make it right by me send me the wheel as the other parts have allmost been covered by the $421 i never wanted any of this to happen i just wanted my parts thats all Troy, (Orange Crush) As much as I want to stay out of this, here is how I see things. Charlie took to long to finish your chassis = you got mad but never told him. Your friends Dyno Don & 535Banshee started posting second hand information on this site as well as Planet Sand. Each time your friends would post, Charlie would contact you, and as always you were as cool as ever. However, the posts made by DynoDon & 535Banshee kept coming no matter what you and Charlie tried to work out. Charlie got fed up with your friends posting bad shit about him, and he decided his fastest way to solve the problem would be to just refund your money for the parts you had not received. Your money was refunded. Done deal - or least it should have been. However, at least 3 more separate posts have been made since then. In my opinion, you are now unhappy because you realize you cannot buy your remaining parts at dealer cost, therefore it is going to cost you more money than it would have if you would have waited for Charlie to send you the remaining parts. You are now trying to blackmail Charlie into paying retail prices for the items because you are mad that it is going to cost you more. The reason I feel like you are trying to blackmail Charlie, is posts like these made by you and 535Banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNANGE CRUSH Posted November 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 [ first off i have not lied i quoted prices that i was told my friends did not get involved for 5 months this should not have gotton to this point am not black mailing any one i was just stating the facts charlie has offerd to make this right on this post and and i have giving him the oppion bottom line i did not do anything wrong and i just thought it would be nice to bring the bike to the races and show it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
535banshee Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 troy just DROP IT. we know how this man is and you are not going to get anywhere. the bike is almost done and my new track is almost done too. we will be racing soon and all this will behind you. call me later p.s. troy has got everything at cost from me so he is not mad about spending more money. you just cant buy everthing for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSNUT Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Troy, (Orange Crush) As much as I want to stay out of this, here is how I see things. Charlie took to long to finish your chassis = you got mad but never told him. Your friends Dyno Don & 535Banshee started posting second hand information on this site as well as Planet Sand. Each time your friends would post, Charlie would contact you, and as always you were as cool as ever. However, the posts made by DynoDon & 535Banshee kept coming no matter what you and Charlie tried to work out. Charlie got fed up with your friends posting bad shit about him, and he decided his fastest way to solve the problem would be to just refund your money for the parts you had not received. Your money was refunded. Done deal - or least it should have been. However, at least 3 more separate posts have been made since then. In my opinion, you are now unhappy because you realize you cannot buy your remaining parts at dealer cost, therefore it is going to cost you more money than it would have if you would have waited for Charlie to send you the remaining parts. You are now trying to blackmail Charlie into paying retail prices for the items because you are mad that it is going to cost you more. The reason I feel like you are trying to blackmail Charlie, is posts like these made by you and 535Banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcompanyron Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 This whole post at first glance seems pretty childish when one considers the real life and death issues happening in the world right now. But looking at the initial deal and the principle involved, it makes perfect sense to me. I, being a little older and raised in a different era see a situation that seems to be more and more common in today's business. There is no honor and integrity in the high twenty to low forty year old generation of self-employed business owners. No one keeps their word or wants to take responsibility for any of their actions. I believe it can be traced back to their upbringing. Anyone not believing this to be true, consider this. What was the deal, was the price paid, was the product received? As a self-employed airconditioning contractor in south georgia. If someone asks me to do a job, even a job I don't want to do, and I give that individual a quote to do the job, receive the money for the job, and the customer feels he didn't get what was promised, it is up to me to make it right. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to KNOW who is wrong, If I didn't deliver, it's my fault. I am the professional in the equation (at least I hope so since I am the one getting paid) and as the professional, should know if I provided the service as quoted. And if I didn't deliver something due to the customers ignorance of the job, it is still my RESPONSIBILITY to make sure the customer understands or to correct the problem. So the question is, was the transaction so screwed up that all was misunderstood, or was a list of services and parts guaranteed, paid for and not delivered? I hate to say, but I have quoted a price for a fan motor before based on past purchases only to find out that the fan motor I needed for this particular job was more than double what I thoght. What did I do, replaced the motor as agreed for the price agreed, let the customer know(why, because I didn't say you had to be modest or humble) and lost money on the deal, but kept my word and gained something more important than the money, a happy, satisfied customer that has sent me more new customers than any paid advertising could do. And if this offends any of the self-employed age group I am referring to, If you ever have to ask yourself "Did I do something wrong or not deliver", then you probably did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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