Fasttoy Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 a boost bottle or a balance tube are not needed. i ran billet intakes on my play bike for years. a boost bottle is jewelry. some say it clears up some mythicalogical flat spot somewhere.never noticed any gain or loss from one or without one. if your bike won`t start without it, you have other issues.i have done so many different motor configurations it`s not funny. all of the significant ones i ran involved no spot for a crossover tube or boost bottle.billet intakes with one less thing to get in my way. NYUK knows what hes talking about,,,,i tried the different combos ,,,,i know i have a pro design boost bottle on my shelf now,,,not on the bike,,,,its pretty ,,,, you must have other issues with the bike if it wont run with out it .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUK Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 A few of you have been around here long enough to remember Sainty, I believe his real name was Martin Saint. This guy knows the ins and outs of the Banshee/RZ motors and gave a very detailed explanation of why a boost botttle built for your specific apllication will infact provide some performance improvement. He did say the exact volume of the one built was for the engine it was built for, not an off the shelf one size fits all. This is not my theory nor will I argue it, the man that this came from has forgotten more about this than I will ever know. and if you remember he went back to the uk ,leaving behind a whole big fiasco with stealth pipes.the greatest banshee pipe never to exhist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyguy Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 damn this really heated up,,, but thanks for the inputs on them. i think it may have been that i need to screw in the idel screws just a touch,,,i did also rejet it ....... im off to try it out.... thanks for the inputs guys,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broke Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 and if you remember he went back to the uk ,leaving behind a whole big fiasco with stealth pipes.the greatest banshee pipe never to exhist. I can't argue that, because that is exactly what he did. In his defense it did have something to do with an illness and insurance. I didn't know they ever even had the Banshee pipe, I know there was a 250r pipe. But all of this still doesn't have much of anything to do with the boost bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 a boost bottle or a balance tube are not needed. i ran billet intakes on my play bike for years. a boost bottle is jewelry. some say it clears up some mythicalogical flat spot somewhere.never noticed any gain or loss from one or without one. if your bike won`t start without it, you have other issues.i have done so many different motor configurations it`s not funny. all of the significant ones i ran involved no spot for a crossover tube or boost bottle.billet intakes with one less thing to get in my way. And John has forgotten more shit then I'll ever know...period. Funny thing is I see his recycled motors and chassis' over here in MI from a few of the GRR boys... Like I said in my PM to him (a reply to Aaron's, btw)... 98% of the people on here will tell you the same thing, they don't work or do anything. 2% are crack heads no matter where you go.... :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.D Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 All right well then yaa you are the smart gut that's why you still haven't told me why they make them if there real function is worthless. So I am getting out of this heat with you. I never said it would not run, Did say it had other functions. So he has stock carbs do you ?? Well, whatever it has no function and I should go talk to my track mech. Whoever that may be some crazy car working out of a bar parking lot I would say. So and Dyna says there is no need to change. not do not change that's what I have said and look at the big tuff guy. And yaa what have I said from day one in these post BR8ES, A resistor plug. So whatever I still know nothing when you still cant tell me why they have them and make them and I still after 8 years of owning,riding,racing, And repairing have never lost a boot under normal wear conditions and find that the bottle does help me and my machine hear at about 1000ft sea level. So it been rea; and it been fun lets put this topic to bed. Whatever the truth may be nor you or I can seem to work this out. Although I have asked your explanation you still cant seem to give it to me while I can validate my claims in which I make. So at least I can explain why I think it is a worthwhile item. Well that's all I can say to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 they make them becasue people like you buy them... they make condoms that twist... do they do anything more for yor chick? well once you finally unwarp that flaccid thing of skin you call a pecker then you can respond. until then shut your damn mouth casue your getting your self a bad rep on here and you just joined... now 80% of anything to claim to anyone to attempt helping them on whether it be correct or not will give them a reason to second guess you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06BaNsHeE Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 All right well then yaa you are the smart gut that's why you still haven't told me why they make them if there real function is worthless. So I am getting out of this heat with you. I never said it would not run, Did say it had other functions. So he has stock carbs do you ?? Well, whatever it has no function and I should go talk to my track mech. Whoever that may be some crazy car working out of a bar parking lot I would say. So and Dyna says there is no need to change. not do not change that's what I have said and look at the big tuff guy. And yaa what have I said from day one in these post BR8ES, A resistor plug. So whatever I still know nothing when you still cant tell me why they have them and make them and I still after 8 years of owning,riding,racing, And repairing have never lost a boot under normal wear conditions and find that the bottle does help me and my machine hear at about 1000ft sea level. So it been rea; and it been fun lets put this topic to bed. Whatever the truth may be nor you or I can seem to work this out. Although I have asked your explanation you still cant seem to give it to me while I can validate my claims in which I make. So at least I can explain why I think it is a worthwhile item. Well that's all I can say to you. Why do you post a picture of your banshee after each post.Just put it on your signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djackbanshee Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) They make them because people buy them My engine builder says exactly that , Some guy brought this boost bottle idea out and started selling some, then everybody just follows . Not because they sell them that they work. Thell keep on making some until people stop buying them. Just like these miracle weight lost pills people are stupic enough to buy them, why not keep on selling them and some people are actually convinced that they work while everybody hnows it's a scam. People can sell you anything if you want. Edited November 13, 2006 by djackbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron.D Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have never made a statement about better air flow w/ a Boost bottle. What I have already said was it helps balance the pressure between the two carbs. It's lager body over the stock tube gives the air more space to expand and contract while engine and outside air effects occur. So with that in mind he still haven't told me why they make them if there real function is worthless. So I am getting out of this heat with you. I never said it would not run, Did say it had other functions. So he has stock carbs do you ? Well, whatever it has no function and I should go talk to my track mech. Whoever that may be some crazy car working out of a bar parking lot I would say. So and Dyna says there is no need to change. not do not change that's what I have said and look at the big tuff guy. And yaa what have I said from day one in these post BR8ES, A resistor plug. So whatever I still know nothing when you still cant tell me why they have them and make them and I still after 8 years of owning,riding,racing, And repairing have never lost a boot under normal wear conditions and find that the bottle does help me and my machine hear at about 1000ft sea level. So it been rea; and it been fun lets put this topic to bed. Whatever the truth may be nor you or I can seem to work this out. Although I have asked your explanation you still cant seem to give it to me while I can validate my claims in which I make. So at least I can explain why I think it is a worthwhile item. Well, that's all I can say to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 I don't need to give you a physics and mathematical reason or proof on why they don't work. (However, get your mechanic from that bar parking lot, I will be teaching English 101, Hooked on Phonics, Spelling and Proper Grammar down the hall, first door on the left. I strongly suggest you and Cletus join in the festivities....) We've got various members on this board from newbies to experienced tuners, riders, racers, builders, etc., telling you they don't do squat. So, they're all wrong and you and Bo-Bo are right? Ok...got it. About that Dyna... I know what you said, I know what I said. I also said I talked to the lead Dyna Engineer....HAVE YOU? No...stfu. Without the boost bottle it will run but it will be more temperamental? WTF does that mean? Oh...snap, Cooter my mechanic has to wrench on my ride more because I don't have a boost bottle... :shoothead: Yes, my bike is setup for Dune/Drag racing. Do you think I bought it that way? No...I've gone through the evolution just like anyone else. Stock, pipes, jets...motor work, different cylinders, pipes, suspension, etc.... And my buddies banshees that I tune are no where NEAR drag/dune bikes. Piped banshees that are jetted, that's about it. I've never claimed to know much, know it all or any of that stuff....there are plenty on this board that know leaps and bounds more than me. However, it's clear to anyone reading this that you don't know shit.....(and I doubt you can spell it or even use it in a punctuated sentence properly, either....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djackbanshee Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 (edited) dude you just dont understand !!! people buy them the point of making something is to sell it, not making a bike faster the people who sell boost bottles don't care if it works or not or if you use it as a gay sex toy they want to makee money and they do because people buy the damm thing , just like those twist condoms they sell for cheap so people buy them to try them without asking questions. I think i will start making boost bottles seems like a nice way to make lots of money! cletus lol!! good one dajogejr Edited November 13, 2006 by djackbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djackbanshee Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 "noboost bottle" http://cgi.ebay.ca/Yamaha-Banshee-BILLET-I...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4speed Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 after reading this i definately will :yelrotflmao: NOT be adding a joke bottle to my ride! Thanx fellas. :yelrotflmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyguy Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 hey there guys, i just took off the bottle. the idle screws needed to be touched.........its off there,, hey aaron D,ill sell you it, its a white brothers, good shape prob make a good 7 hp, cheap,,hows 20$ sound???????????? :yelrotflmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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