skin doc Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 i just the quotes from the amsoil question and one of the guys said he runs atf in his shee. is that correct? i was told to run 10 w 30 in mine. am i right. the last time i rode,i was in a wheelie in first and then went to second. instead of coming straight back up it sort of slipped and whined out. its like the clutch was slipping. is that from the oil that i put in? it was regular penzoil 10 w 30 motor oil. can someone shed some light on this for me, i'm going riding in the morning......oh by the way that was funny as hell about the guy replacing his powerband..........lol.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yea it is probably becuase you put penzoil 10w30 in it. If your going to run an engine oil in your banshee you need to make sure it is for motorcycles and atv's. Motorcycle and Atv engine oil is designed to be used with a wet clutch system. Regular penzoil is made for cars and has friction modifiers in it. That is what is causing your clutch to slip. Look on the back of your oil jug. Does it have a little symbol that is round and has all of the oil certifications on it. If it says Conserves Energy or Energy Conserving then it has friction modifiers in it. There are a few auto engine oils that will work with your banshee though. A good one is Synthitic Rotella 5w40 it is a synthetic oil made for diesel trucks. A very good oil that will work with your wet clutch and it can be bought at walmart. The non synthetic oil will work as well but it is a 15w40. A lot heavier oil. Some people on here use Automatic Transmission Fluid type F. with good sucess. I run Belray's Gear Saver 80W gear oil. It is made for 2 stroke transmissions. If you wanted to save your clutch dain that oil out now and refill it up with a different oil. Take it easy on the clutch for a while. Then drain the oil out and refill. Kind of flush it out. josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassbanshee479 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I run 2 full quarts of atf type f in my drag bike and I run maxxima mtl 80 weight in my play bike. if you are gonna run atf you have to change it often cause it is thin and it brakes down quickly. I change mine after a weekend of riding and or racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Do you really have to change it ever weekend? There are lots of cars and trucks that run ATF in there manual transmissions. They dont change it that often. Most go at least 50,000 miles. Does the ATF come out burnt smelling like it does when atf is old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 no you dont ned to chace it every weekend... i run mine usally 4 or 5 times then chance it, and i do it more then needed, i like to change mine while its still clean and red, before it turns colors and starts breaking down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassbanshee479 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 for as much money as I have in my bike I dont like to chance it, especialy when its like 5 bucks for 2 quarts of atf. much cheaper than a new trans etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY350twin Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Do you really have to change it ever weekend? There are lots of cars and trucks that run ATF in there manual transmissions. They dont change it that often. Most go at least 50,000 miles. Does the ATF come out burnt smelling like it does when atf is old? You don't have to change it every ride, but around 3-4 rides is a good interval . 2 stroke transmissions recieve alot more abuse than a conventional tranny's like in a car or truck. Also since it is "wet clucth"you don't want broken down fluid and tiny metal fibers lubricating your tranny and clucthes for a long period of time. That is why tranny fluid is frequntly changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_forma Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 for as much money as I have in my bike I dont like to chance it, especialy when its like 5 bucks for 2 quarts of atf. much cheaper than a new trans etc... I run ATF type F in all my 2t's, seems to be the only oil my bikes like, never had good success with gear saver or others....... $5 for 2qts? I pay a $1 a qt at walmart :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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