trashedbanshee Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) I drag raced my friends 06 450R against my 91 Banshee. The place was fairly flat but like damp wet sand. we ran about a 200ft race. Running at sea level at about 50 degrees. His 450R is supposedly stock... visually doesnt seem to be anything done to it. hes weighing in at about 170 -200. My Banshee is a rebuilt motor bored I believe .60 over not sure if its got any port work or an aftermarket crank. I was told the head is shaved, but it doesn't look any different than stock. I've got FMF reeds, stock carbs, with stock carbs i think ive got 260 maybe 270s for main jets, K&N filter in the stock box no lid, FMF Fattys to old style Toomey silencers. I ve got Maxxis Razars up front on .190s and Realators out back on .190s set for running in the dirt. I've also got a 13 tooth sprocket up front. Im weighing about 140-160. First run, I launched in 2nd he got me off the line and came in my lane b/c he pulled wheels. I wasn't sure weather to stay on it or let off so he took that win. Second run, I launched in first and the banshee went right on its ass. Third run, he stalled right at the line. LOL Fourth run, I launched in first and he caught up to me at the end. So a few of my buddies said I wass spinning tires in all gears (no traction), but that my quad wasn't running right and would misfire when i hit third gear. What that all about? His buddy that supposedly has 2 Banshees and knows what hes talikng about siad my quad was smelling funny and I'm running too lean, I'm gonna blow my motor. Although my Quad has ran as is for about 4 years no problem. Well anyway I know my Banshee should take his 450R. I just wanna shut these kids up b/c all they do is bullshit and talk smack. So is it my Banshee isn't running right and my jettings off? Do I have enough motor? Im thinking I just didn't have enough traction in the sand with my tires turned for dirt and im too light for the quads power. Would it be a good idea to put the 34mm PJs that came with the quad back on for power? I tooke them off mainly b/c I ride it everywhere and it would foul plugs in trails. What do I do? I gotta beat this kid its embarassing lol! Thanks guys Edited October 26, 2006 by trashedbanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 PPL are going to have to get used to loosing to 4 strokes they are getting faster and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellison445 Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Very true!!! PPL are going to have to get used to loosing to 4 strokes they are getting faster and faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 PPL are going to have to get used to loosing to 4 strokes they are getting faster and faster. I know it...people don't understand it takes more than pipes and reeds to beat a new 450, unless you weigh 150 lbs or the rider on the 450 can't ride for shit. The new 4 strokes are fast....plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasicBajaX Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 And we have only just began to go faster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I want a turbo on my 450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboybanshee Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I want a turbo on my 450. I have a friend of mine that is in the process of building a kit for it...using a garrett turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencethevoice Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have a friend of mine that is in the process of building a kit for it...using a garrett turbo Yeah, I'm always just a bike length or two behind my buddies YFZ450... We'll see what happens when I get my new set of mods all installed.. :wink: But, I know when I drag at Olds now, my biggest weakness is the whoops. Those fuckers have gotten so big in recent days, the stock banshee suspension just doesn't cut it against raptors and 450s.. Oh well, I guess that's just one more thing to throw money at.. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have a friend of mine that is in the process of building a kit for it...using a garrett turbo They make a 10:1 piston now so you can run more boost also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 A ported banshee can beat about 95% of the 4 strokes out there but in stock trim, the 450's are pretty quick, especially in short races in the sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
differentstrokes Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I've got both too, my R has an HRC kit and a few other goodies and it's pretty quick. I wouldn't hesitate to race any mild banshee with it. I think it puts its hp to better use and gets better traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headsup Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I drag raced my friends 06 450R against my 91 Banshee. The place was fairly flat but like damp wet sand. we ran about a 200ft race. Running at sea level at about 50 degrees. His 450R is supposedly stock... visually doesnt seem to be anything done to it. hes weighing in at about 170 -200. My Banshee is a rebuilt motor bored I believe .60 over not sure if its got any port work or an aftermarket crank. I was told the head is shaved, but it doesn't look any different than stock. I've got FMF reeds, stock carbs, with stock carbs i think ive got 260 maybe 270s for main jets, K&N filter in the stock box no lid, FMF Fattys to old style Toomey silencers. I ve got Maxxis Razars up front on .190s and Realators out back on .190s set for running in the dirt. I've also got a 13 tooth sprocket up front. Im weighing about 140-160. First run, I launched in 2nd he got me off the line and came in my lane b/c he pulled wheels. I wasn't sure weather to stay on it or let off so he took that win. Second run, I launched in first and the banshee went right on its ass. Third run, he stalled right at the line. LOL Fourth run, I launched in first and he caught up to me at the end. So a few of my buddies said I wass spinning tires in all gears (no traction), but that my quad wasn't running right and would misfire when i hit third gear. What that all about? His buddy that supposedly has 2 Banshees and knows what hes talikng about siad my quad was smelling funny and I'm running too lean, I'm gonna blow my motor. Although my Quad has ran as is for about 4 years no problem. Well anyway I know my Banshee should take his 450R. I just wanna shut these kids up b/c all they do is bullshit and talk smack. So is it my Banshee isn't running right and my jettings off? Do I have enough motor? Im thinking I just didn't have enough traction in the sand with my tires turned for dirt and im too light for the quads power. Would it be a good idea to put the 34mm PJs that came with the quad back on for power? I tooke them off mainly b/c I ride it everywhere and it would foul plugs in trails. What do I do? I gotta beat this kid its embarassing lol! Thanks guys the mods tell the work or speed with the size of your main jets. with my mods i run 320 main jets, with stock carbs if you know that you wouldnt want to race me. i beat 700r, 450, 650ds,[so you need a good port job.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 a ported dialed -in banshee shouldnt have too much trouble taking down any of the new 450's :beer:good jetting and getting traction is the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 this race came down to traction. think about it. you weigh 160 pounds on a banshee..its got a on/off powerband as it is. youre geared down manking it break traction even worse. and youre launching in first.. hes on a 4 stroke weighing near 200 pounds. no wheel spin on them anyway..of course hes gonna be gone off the line your first thing is that you need to start in 2nd. i dont care what u need to do but start in 2nd. 1st is just gonna blow the tires off especially with that gearing. what tires u have?? your whole problem is traction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trashedbanshee Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 ive got 22" pure sport realtors running in the direction for dirt not sand. I think traction is what got me. ive got the 13 tooth sprocket and launched in 1st, your saying i should launch in 2nd. What if i ran the stock 14tooth sprocket rather than the 13? What do you think the problem is with me misfiring when i hit 3rd? Could I be running to lean? Should i toss the bigger carbs on?All I wanna do is beat this kid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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