kubiac3 Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Banshee will not RUN!! Rewired it 3 times to make sure It wasnt that, stator tests fine, put on brand new coil, and still nothing. It ran perfect before I did the rebuild. The only things I changed on it this time were a +4 degree key, went from 32:1 castor oil to 50:1 Amsoil, went from 320 main jets to 310 mains, and went from 110 octane to 93 octane. I have 120lbs of pressure in each cylindar, the crank case is not leaking any oil either. It starts for about 3 seconds after kicking it like a donkey with the throttle wide open. then gas flows out of the over flow after that. Im going to check the carb bowls tomorrow, if thats not it then idk. Ive had problems with it since day one, thought giving her a face lift would gain some respect from her. :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollister_Hitman Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 stick in there man you'll get her going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomey Banshee Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Disconnect your TORS and parking brake. Rip your carbs off, clean and sync 'em. Is the tube that connects both carbs connected? Verify that it is. Throw new plugs in and make sure they're gapped correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesw Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 a motor needs spark, fuel, and air to run. to run correctly those parts need to be adjusted correctly pull the plugs and hold it against the block or head adn have someone kick it over and look for a spark, fuel: clean your carbs out, check your jetting. might have a big pilot or plugged up air: clean your filters. if still dont work then find out whats wrong and go from there. spark= electrical: stator, coil, cdi, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
platinumjason Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Make sure the +4 key you installed hasnt sheared. I havent had any problems with mine nor have my buddies but they are know to shear sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobanshee Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If gas comes out the overflow tubes your needle and seat isn't stopping the fuel flow. Likely caused by a piece of dirt,Remove the float and needle,clean the needle and seat,you might also want to install a fuel filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubiac3 Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I cleaned the carbs completely today, and put fresh plugs and gas in it. I have spark, some of the time, but it could be because I painted and cleared my head and i get a ground some of the time when doing a spark test. Do you guys think it could be my CDI or stator even though it tests good? Im running out of ideas. I might just keep buying new parts till I buy one that fixes it. terrible idea but its all i got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 make sure your tube is on between carbs and also make sure you didnt put slides in backwards... i know i know they only go in one way.. but if you get them in the wrong carb they will be in backwards... look at book for pict which way half moon goes on the slide and make sure slides on in right you may have got them crossed... also check the wires going to the lil block that has the plugs wires and make sure you got good connection there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubiac3 Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 make sure your tube is on between carbs and also make sure you didnt put slides in backwards... i know i know they only go in one way.. but if you get them in the wrong carb they will be in backwards... look at book for pict which way half moon goes on the slide and make sure slides on in right you may have got them crossed... also check the wires going to the lil block that has the plugs wires and make sure you got good connection there... Right now I have the cut out on the carb slides facing the reeds. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Right now I have the cut out on the carb slides facing the reeds. Is that right? Nope...cutout should face the airbox side. That's a big problem...(well, running-wise anyways) Flop the slides and re-sync them to be sure they're moving the same time.... Is it a nice blue spark? Scratch a little paint off a head stud or something else, just to make sure...but, those carbs gotta be fixed. Also, when you put the flywheel back on, did you recheck the air gap between the flywheel and the pickup? .017 to .020 is good to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheefreak Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 let us know how it runs after you reverse the slides.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubiac3 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Awesome, im actually pumped the slides are backwards, this means I dont have to buy more stuff probably. When I put the flywheel on the gap was at .22. Im headin to the shop right now to switch them around, I will let you guys know what happens. Im pretty sure now that its it, The spark is really good, I painted the head and clear coated it 4 times so i think its not getting a good ground, when i hold it on the studs on the head it gets a good spark but its hard to hold it there steady and kick it at the same time, therefore I get a spark sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubiac3 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 :: well carb slides were in wrong, put them in right, it didnt help anything. Kicked it a good 120 times tonight, spent the night adjusting the carbs here and there, sprayed starting fluid on the air filters, took the filters off and sprayed it in the carbs, sprayed it right in the cylindars. Changed the plugs twice. I even pulled the flywheel and switched the timing key around just to make sure it was good and wasnt in backwards. I switched the coil wires around too, in the manual it shows the orange wire hooked to ground and black to positive. Ive always had ground to negative and orange to positive, thought maybe just maybe that was it. I use to run 110 octane and i switched to 93, i really didnt have to run 110 i just did because i thought it was better, but it ran when i used 110 octane. I also installed a new clutch basket when i did th rebuild, could something inside the gearing and clutch cause it not to start? Also when i rewired it I removed my key and lighting system, I hooked the key wire comming out of the CDI to the ground. I also cut the connecter off and just hooked up individual connectors. I think my main problem is im actually getting spark sometimes. So my question is my stator tests fine, but could it be the stator even if it tests good. Is it my CDI? It ran perfect before so i dont see how the CDI could go bad sitting on the bike while the engine was taken out. Heres what my set-up is.. .40 over vitos super stock pistons +4 timing key boysen reeds reed spacers boost bottle polished intake stock carbs with 27.5 pilot and 310 mains, needle on 3rd position Amsoil 50:1 with 93 octane Any ideas? Ive also heard before that switching your carb bowls can cause problems, theres markings on the inside of each carb, mine are both 1-2 and exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubiac3 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ok I just searched high and low, ive came to this conclusion for now.. My dad removed my flywheel with a jaw type flywheel puller. (trying to do me a favor). Well theres some good marks in it from that, not to mention a nice screw driver pry mark. I "think" that the flywheel is spinning on the crank in a cock eyed manner causeing this spark, no spark situation. And seeing that im clearly going to need a new flywheel anyways im going to drive an hr to vitos performance tomorrow morning and buy one and see what happens. I "think" this is the problem I have at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollister_Hitman Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ok I just searched high and low, ive came to this conclusion for now.. My dad removed my flywheel with a jaw type flywheel puller. (trying to do me a favor). Well theres some good marks in it from that, not to mention a nice screw driver pry mark. I "think" that the flywheel is spinning on the crank in a cock eyed manner causeing this spark, no spark situation. And seeing that im clearly going to need a new flywheel anyways im going to drive an hr to vitos performance tomorrow morning and buy one and see what happens. I "think" this is the problem I have at hand. Good luck hope it works out for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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