alisn4x4 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 hey guys/gals. new to the forum but a veteran rider. name is alex. i live down in So Cal, san diego to be exact. wanted to give intro and say hello. just inherited a project banshee and gonna start the teardown and rebuild this upcomming week. you guys were the first thing that popped up on my search engine and so figured id drop in for a ride. got a 91 shee thats in terrible need of a revamp and so i guess ill be using BHQ as my base for the build and info station. so far im looking for a engine rebuild kit and am over whelemed by the endless options in wich way to go. hope to learn a few things and share the experience as i go on through here. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 You definately came to the right place! Are you looking for a simple overbore kit or are you wanting to go big bore or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisn4x4 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 You definately came to the right place! Are you looking for a simple overbore kit or are you wanting to go big bore or what? to be honest, im not too sure. i dont wanna go broke rebuilding the bike but at the same time i think can afford some sort of a big bore upgrade. im just not sure who's, what, and where to get a good kit from. i want to be able to order the kit without it needing something else to be ordered, (example: ordering a kit that has evrything but a certain gasket or what not) in other words, i'd like to be able to order a kit in where i have evrything needed to do the big bore deal. drop it off to have the cylinder bores machined, matched and honed for the kit i order. know what i mean? id like to keep it simple to where i dont hve cooling issues or where it might sacrifice reliablitiy. this bike is gonna be built twards the sand. race the hill, drags, that sort of thing. i dont need to be the fastest guy there. just enough to have fun and scoot. the bike was pretty darn fast before one of the rings finally gave way so i know any bore out will only make it just a bit more fun. with this in mind, is there something out there you would recommend? any specific brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tithead Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 welcome to the HQ! hope everything goes well with the rebuild. pics are usually a big hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Sounds like you could probably get by with staying with the "stock bore" but going up to the next size. You could do like what I plan and have it ported while it's torn down for the rebuild. Shee's seem to respond amazingly well to a GOOD port job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisn4x4 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) Sounds like you could probably get by with staying with the "stock bore" but going up to the next size. You could do like what I plan and have it ported while it's torn down for the rebuild. Shee's seem to respond amazingly well to a GOOD port job. yea, so ive heard tho this bike was already ported back in the day. last time i seen it run it was one of the faster bikes out at the dunes..... it may need to be redone but who would you suggest i take the head out to for a good port job? anyone near san diego?? theres about a billion diffrent shops in or around town but i have no idea of who may be good or not. more then likely i can tell them what ill be doing with the bike and will know what kinda porting job to have done to it. tithead- thanks for the welcome. ill get some pictures of the bike once i get it over here. although i guess i can show off my other bike in the mean time. Edited September 25, 2006 by alisn4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbeast Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hell I couldn't tell you of anyone out in CA. Alot of places here around OK and KS. If you can find some people around you that ride ask them, or I'm sure there's someone on here that could chime in. If it used to be one of the faster bikes it may just need to be bored over one size and ridden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisn4x4 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hell I couldn't tell you of anyone out in CA. Alot of places here around OK and KS. If you can find some people around you that ride ask them, or I'm sure there's someone on here that could chime in. If it used to be one of the faster bikes it may just need to be bored over one size and ridden! yeah, its what im thinking but at the same time, im already there so i think to myself why not go a little bigger? i could just do bore over and then do the 2 into 1 carb and work around the bike instead.... but thats where i have the indecision of which way to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hey man, welcome to the HQ. I sent mine off to Jeff at FAST, shipping shmipping, its all good. I just know he is good at what he does, but everyone has their own preference when it comes to builders................. Just do a search on here for builders................. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisn4x4 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Hey man, welcome to the HQ. I sent mine off to Jeff at FAST, shipping shmipping, its all good. I just know he is good at what he does, but everyone has their own preference when it comes to builders................. Just do a search on here for builders................. :beer: thanks animalman. yea, im searching in "sponge mode" reading on evrything i see and seeing what people have done, experienced and such. also looking through some of the vendors kits that even have a pre-ported cylinder kit such as a 404 kit ive seen has all new sleeves, pistons etc and is all match ported for certain uses and such. guess i just gotta read up more and compare. i still have a few days before the bike gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grounded Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Good call on the 2 into 1, first thing I did to mine. I ride only at buttercup and gordons, have no trouble with that setup out there at all. Mine is strictly sand ridden , stock bore, with a shaved head, timing reeds etc........ Pulls hard enough to need 10 paddle extremes. 450s, really are a surprise when I miss a shift( normally because I've cleaned out my cooler at the hill.) My setup is conservative but dunes very well. D&M built my motor , they are out of PHX. Check planetsand.com for their credablity. HTH TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 dont be too focused on a big bore 400+ kit ,,instead id look at getting your oem 350 cylinder ported for maximum performance along with some good add on mods like Vforce delta reed intakes ...higher static compression head ...and increased ignition timing ,also good high reving pipes are a must . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Welcome to the HQ... The first thing we need to know is what is currently on the bike (head, crank, exhaust, air filter system, etc.) Second, your budget....you can go as fast as your wallet lets you... I agree with Rocketboy. No need for a big Bore kit yet. Just get a tight motor.... A good port job can make you a total rocket...but, a bad one can make you a toad... Here's how it's really gonna play out...now that you have the sickness. Porting, fresh top end, and every other bolt on part. Higher compression head, ignition advance, lightened flywheel, reeds...etc. Then...it's gonna be fast again for a while...and when that while is over, get your wallet out...and be prepared to spend some money on a rocket!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisn4x4 Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 i think ill take your guys' advice on the stock bore. ill go ahead and stick to a standard bore and order a rebuild kit for one. anyone have any suggestions on a brand?? should i use a higher compression piston set etc?? where do i go to order a kit from?? any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ill get more info on the bike as soon as i go pick it up. i beleive it already has a port job on it (wich last time i rode it it was pretty damn fast... (in case you guys wonder how i rode it is due to the bike belonging to a neighbor of mine. im waiting for him to clear out the area so i can roll it out later this week.) once i get it ill take the motor appart and snap a shot of the porting on it and see what you guys think. ill do as you guys suggested and run all the nice bolt ons to bump the power. the motor as far as i know is pretty much still stock otherwise. (head, comp ratio etc,) i think my buddy did a set of toomey pipes way back when he got the bike, then rejetted. thats it. ill see if i can go over and snap some photos of it. i need to get it torn down to the bare frame by this weekend tho, cus i just got another freind that hooked me up with a powdercoat place so long as we turn in our frames at the same time. by the way, thanks for all the help guys... im really getting geared up for this build! :baseball_w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Good for you!! Wiseco Pro Lites are hard to beat, reliability, price...etc. You don't buy high compression pistons for banshees....or two strokes for that matter. That is done by changing the volume of the head itself, in ccs. You can shave material off the base of the head to accomplish this. .020 to .030 is the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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