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The god damn sticky throttle has always been an issue, then the tors gets all fuked up and people blame the tors for the problem, stock carbs suck, filter sucks, tires suck, my ebrake didn't work after the 3rd week I owned mine from new, and if you think I wanna keep adjusting it think again.

On the other hand, I've never (or any of my buddy's) had any trouble with cooling, the stock impeller works fine, think of all the RD and RZ street bikes out there with the exact same set-up nad with 10's of thousands of miles on them....the stock cylinder head also is fine, no inherant problems.

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Yeah...I'd have to disagree with just about everything you've said as well..csr...

 

1. Put the bike in gear, and use a strap. You haven't had that parking brake cable malfunction and eat up a set of pads in about...oh, 1/2 hour yet.

2. If one slide sticks open, the motor will rev up. As long as the jetting isn't lean....how can that lean out the motor and blow it up??? IF you can't tell something is wrong by the motor revving up unexplained....you don't deserve to be on this quad. The ONLY time I ever had the stock carbs stick is when a TON of water was involved and sand too... The TORS are junk...and cause electrical nightmare after nightmare....no one could've been saved from a crash by them...that's pure crap IMO. Even when maintained, they don't work half the time, period.

3. Get a Honda Roundhouse style, even back in good ol 85, my 250 quadracer had the roundhouse style (ironically....it went to a shitty design in 87...)... I keep mine maintained like a mofo... Those tabs can bend, throwing your axle out of adjustment as well causing the bike to pull.

Won't happen on a roundhouse....

 

csr...I gather from your writings I read you are on your first and only banshee...and it's been working out great for you...and that's fine. Get to wrenching on a few more under your belt over time...and I think you'd see things differently...

 

I'm not bagging on you....don't be offended. I just think alot of your comments are "newbie" or Rookie tuner comments, that's all.

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Maybe this isnt quite as common as the others mentioned but my stock jetting when I bought my bike was absolutely horrible. It wasnt even in the ballpark of correct. Now the Perfect Jetting form Toomey is just as named. Ive never been around a 2stoke that starts as easily as mine. Hot or cold I barely kick it while sitting and she busts right off. Has anyone else gotten horribly tuned carbs and jetting when they bought their bikes? I could understand if I bought it in extreme elevations and it was kinda rich but Im close to sea level where the generic factory settings should be ok and the thing constantly smoked and fouled plugs.

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the Perfect Jetting form Toomey is just as named. Ive never been around a 2stoke that starts as easily as mine.

 

That "perfect jet kit" is only perfect if you leave the airbox on....and don't ride at really, really high altitude...and don't run it in really cold temps.

The problem is...Toomey markets that jet kit for use without an airbox (their 1 into 2 foam filter) and it's way lean without the airbox....

 

Because the banshee is a small piston'd twin...it should start that way everytime, when jetted correctly...

 

Nothing starts as easy as a twin two stroke (ok...four stroke guys...jump in here with the electric start, etc...ha ha...)

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I have to agree With dejogejr tors junk, park brake junk,stock air box junk swing arm ,shocks etc.get rid of the garbage that has been listed by many of the well known shee owers above and it could save a lot of head ache's you need very little wirng to make a shee run. And as far as thottles sticking well keep track of your cables to the carbs and if the parking brake cable is'nt in the way and all the other junk the maintanace is very simple... not to mention it cleans up a shee and makes it look a hell iof alot better. Do you want your shee to make HP or just ideal around? because a shee is ment to be rode hard and put away wet, shee's like it. stock parts just suck!just my .02 worth.

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I own a great set right now! Bitch!!!!!

You post whore, you... First the thread with the posing motorcycle pictures now this..... :yelrotflmao: just kidding dude!

 

Ok, I think the stock stator cover isn't the best. Every plastic one I've ever had leaks water, even when the gasket is on, and they break really easily if you happen to overighten one of the bolts a little bit. What's even worse is the cheap phillips head bolts they put in there, I have stripped a ton.

 

Fix, billet stator cover cover and allen head stator cover bolts from modquad(or your choice). I have the allen head screws, but $300 seems like a lot for a stator cover(could better be used on other mods right now). But I'll get one eventually.

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That "perfect jet kit" is only perfect if you leave the airbox on....and don't ride at really, really high altitude...and don't run it in really cold temps.

The problem is...Toomey markets that jet kit for use without an airbox (their 1 into 2 foam filter) and it's way lean without the airbox....

 

Because the banshee is a small piston'd twin...it should start that way everytime, when jetted correctly...

 

Nothing starts as easy as a twin two stroke (ok...four stroke guys...jump in here with the electric start, etc...ha ha...)

 

 

Funny u should say that cuz I laugh at my friends on their 4 pokes always having problems with their starter relay or battery or etc. With the stock compression, I can start my bike by hand with ease.

 

Btw, where did u here that the toomey jetting was lean when u eliminated the airbox? I have an aluminum airbox eliminator that bolts in place of the airbox and uses a large single K&N for dry riding if I could ever find any here in Philly. When I asked Toomey about this setup they claimed it would work fine with jetting I have. When I finally put this filter on and ride somewhere thats exclusively dry, do I need to move the needles up or completely change the jets?

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I've jetted quite a few T5'd piped bikes. Mine included...

The Toomey jet kit comes with 270 and 280 mains... I believe the instructions say use the 270 above 2500 feet, the 280 below.

 

With just his pipes and 1 into 2 filter, I needed a 330 main.

 

My buddy, 98 shee...same thing. Put a 340 in his...

 

If you run with an airbox, the 270 or 280 should be ok (sea level, or less than 1000 feet, 65 to 90 deg. riding temps.).

 

Once you remove the airbox, those mains are too lean, period.

And this kit was out before the T6 pipes, so...I'm sure jetting for those isn't too far off from the T5....

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Nothing starts as easy as a twin two stroke (ok...four stroke guys...jump in here with the electric start, etc...ha ha...)

 

 

LOL, ill admit, ive had a few 4 strokes... but seriously, the electric start aint all that great... if the battery's dead, you gotta push the thing down the trail and pop it in gear to get it goin again... and if the battery is totally shot, it can prevent the engine from running at all... Ill stick with my kicking till my leg falls off if necessary...

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Nothing starts as easy as a twin two stroke (ok...four stroke guys...jump in here with the electric start, etc...ha ha...)

LOL, ill admit, ive had a few 4 strokes... but seriously, the electric start aint all that great... if the battery's dead, you gotta push the thing down the trail and pop it in gear to get it goin again... and if the battery is totally shot, it can prevent the engine from running at all... Ill stick with my kicking till my leg falls off if necessary...

 

When your leg falls off I will come pick up your banshee and put a new top end in it and jet it correctly. LOL

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No offense, but I have to disagree with you, csrmel.

First of all...99.9% of the time the parking brake has never worked, even when adjusted.

Even with constant maintenance.

 

And the frame materials and fasteners seem to be made out of recycled soup cans or some

kind of cheap ass metal.

1. I totally agree with that. I have pulled banshees out of yamaha shipping crates and the parking is only marginal at best.

 

2. Another agreement, that shit is like butter. And a bitch to weld also.

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I've jetted quite a few T5'd piped bikes. Mine included...

The Toomey jet kit comes with 270 and 280 mains... I believe the instructions say use the 270 above 2500 feet, the 280 below.

 

With just his pipes and 1 into 2 filter, I needed a 330 main.

 

My buddy, 98 shee...same thing. Put a 340 in his...

 

If you run with an airbox, the 270 or 280 should be ok (sea level, or less than 1000 feet, 65 to 90 deg. riding temps.).

 

Once you remove the airbox, those mains are too lean, period.

And this kit was out before the T6 pipes, so...I'm sure jetting for those isn't too far off from the T5....

Yeah, Toomey's perfect jetting is anything but. Im running with an airbox without a lid, with 340 mains. Im surprised more people don't blow their motors running that jetting.

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