ClimbAnyHill Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Why is my exhaust so smokey? How long is mixed gas good for? Does it expire? It's been sitting in my tank over a month ago. It ran fine and exhaust was fine back then. I hardly get the smell of gas from the tank. Should i drain it out? Will it damage my engine? I used the correct ratio measured out the cup, used Yama Lube. I read alot about Amsoil so I guess i should switch over. How does Yama stuff compare to Amsoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) I would run a Klotz oil over Amsoil. Amsoil's 2 stroke oils have lower flash points and are thiner / lighter weight oils. Klotz R50 Flash point = 400 deg F. Viscosity of 18 cSt at 100 deg C. or 950 SUS at 100 deg F. (Approx. 50 Weight Oil) Klotz R50 Techniplate Tech Sheet LINK Klotz Supertechniplate Flash point = 460 deg F. Viscosity of 200 cSt at 40 deg C. or 950 SUS at 100 deg F. (Approx. 50 Weight Oil) Klotz Supertechniplate Tech Sheet LINK Klotz Benol Flash Point = 520 deg F. Viscosity = 220 cSt at 40 deg C. or 950 - 1100 Sus at 100 deg F. (Approx 50 Weight Oil) Klotz Benol Tech Sheet LINK Amsoil Saber (100:1 recomended by them not me) Flash Point = 237 deg F Viscosity = 99 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.5 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Saber LINK Amsoil Domintator Flash Point = 198 deg F Viscosity = 40.9 cSt at 40 deg C. or 7.6 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Domintator LINK Amsoil Interceptor Flash Point = 183 deg F. Viscosity = 40.9 cSt at 40 deg C. or 8.0 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Interceptor LINK Well might as will add Maxima Oil to the list. Maxima Castor 927 Flash Point = 420 deg F. Viscosity = 133.1 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.79 cSt at 100 deg C. Viscosity = 617 SUS at 100 deg F. Maxima 927 Castor LINK Maxima Formula K2 Flash Point = 240 deg F. Viscosity = 97.0 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.58 cSt at 100 deg C. Viscosity = 450 SUS at 100 deg F. Maxima Formula K2 LINK I am not a rocket scientist but to me thicker oil that burns at a higher temp = better protection. I run Klotz Supertechniplate synthetic oil bleneded 20% with there benol racing castor oil. It smokes some but not as much as yamaha lube. If you want no smoke or very little try the Klotz R50. It is 100% synthetic. I think next time I am going to try Klotz Benol. It offers the most protection but it is a castor oil and it burns a little dirtier than the others. Edited August 30, 2006 by jbooker82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) Why is my exhaust so smokey? How long is mixed gas good for? Does it expire? It's been sitting in my tank over a month ago. It ran fine and exhaust was fine back then. I hardly get the smell of gas from the tank. Should i drain it out? Will it damage my engine? I used the correct ratio measured out the cup, used Yama Lube. I read alot about Amsoil so I guess i should switch over. How does Yama stuff compare to Amsoil? I would just top it off with fresh fuel next time you go riding. Mixed gas has the same shelf life as regular gas. The oil doesnt settle out of it. If it makes you feel better stand up on the foot pegs and rock the machine side to side. I have had premix setting in a gas can for a month and a half before and it ran fine on it. The only thing i would be worie about is if it is smoking on one side more than the other. RH side having excess smoke hents twards a back crank seal letting trans oil in to the engine and being burnt in the RH cylinder. No smoke on one side compaired to the other. Lean = air leak. Edited August 25, 2006 by jbooker82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) I would just top it off with fresh fuel next time you go riding. Mixed gas has the same shelf life as regular gas. The oil doesnt settle out of it. If it makes you feel better stand up on the foot pegs and rock the machine side to side. I have had premix setting in a gas can for a month and a half before and it ran fine on it. The only thing i would be worie about is if it is smoking on one side more than the other. RH side having excess smoke hents twards a back crank seal letting trans oil in to the engine and being burnt in the RH cylinder. No smoke on one side compaired to the other. Lean = air leak. I agree. Shake it up some (remix). My friends and I also like Klotz Supertechniplate oil for premix. Edited August 26, 2006 by brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREELIZARD Posted August 27, 2006 Report Share Posted August 27, 2006 I would run a Klotz oil over Amsoil. Amsoil's 2 stroke oils have lower flash points and are thiner / lighter weight oils. Klotz R50 Flash point = 400 deg F. Viscosity of 18 cSt at 100 deg C. or 950 SUS at 100 deg F. (Approx. 50 Weight Oil) Klotz R50 Techniplate Tech Sheet LINK Klotz Supertechniplate Flash point = 460 deg F. Viscosity of 200 cSt at 40 deg C. or 950 SUS at 100 deg F. (Approx. 50 Weight Oil) Klotz Supertechniplate Tech Sheet LINK Klotz Benol Flash Point = 520 deg F. Viscosity = 220 cSt at 40 deg C. or 950 - 1100 Sus at 100 deg F. (Approx 50 Weight Oil) Klotz Benol Tech Sheet LINK Amsoil Saber (100:1 recomended by them not me) Flash Point = 237 deg F Viscosity = 99 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.5 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Saber LINK Amsoil Domintator Flash Point = 198 deg F Viscosity = 40.9 cSt at 40 deg C. or 7.6 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Domintator LINK Amsoil Interceptor Flash Point = 183 deg F. Viscosity = 40.9 cSt at 40 deg C. or 8.0 cSt at 100 deg C. Amsoil Interceptor LINK Well might as will add Maxima Oil to the list. Maxima Castor 927 Flash Point = 420 deg F. Viscosity = 133.1 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.79 cSt at 100 deg C. Viscosity = 617 SUS at 100 deg F. Maxima 927 Castor LINK Maxima Formula K2 Flash Point = 240 deg F. Viscosity = 97.0 cSt at 40 deg C. or 13.58 cSt at 100 deg C. Viscosity = 450 SUS at 100 deg F. Maxima Formula K2 LINK I am not a rocket scientist but to me thicker oil that burns at a higher temp = better protection. I run Klotz Supertechniplate synthetic oil bleneded 20% with there benol racing castor oil. It smokes some but not as much as yamaha lube. If you want no smoke or very little try the Klotz R50. It is 100% synthetic. I think next time I am going to try Klotz Benol. It offers the most protection but it is a castor oil and it burns a little dirtier than the others. Thanks for the info i was using the amsoil dominator mixed at 50:1 untill I read your post. 198deg. flash point? the oil is burning off before it has a chance to lubricate. so i switched back to the castor 927. klotz is almost impossible to find around here. thanks again :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicwatson Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 ive been running amsoil for five years in my banshee/ sled and havent burned up a motor yet (knock on wood) but i do ride the piss out of it to :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 I am sure that Amsoil is a good oil. There is deffinatley a lot worse out there. Just telling people why I run Klotz. Premix oil is a on going Ford vs. Chevy war. It is all about your prefreance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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