Satsol67 Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Hi, I just ordered clutch plates and fibers w/ the heavy duty springs from RMATV and I have a few questions. 1 If I use the heavy duty springs will it make the tug on the clutch cable much harder? or should I just leave the ones that are in it? 2 Is there any specail trick in replacing them? From the way the book looks like it they are offset. Is that correct? 3 Am i going to need a specail tool to remove the pressure plate? Thanks Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansh-eman Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 1 If I use the heavy duty springs will it make the tug on the clutch cable much harder? or should I just leave the ones that are in it? when you use the HD springs your clutch will be much stiffer then befor assuming you didnt have HD's already. but your clutch will hold much beter and not slip. 2 Is there any specail trick in replacing them? From the way the book looks like it they are offset. Is that correct? no special trick to puting them on you just got to torque them down and use the torque pattern to spread the pressure evenly. just do one and then the fathest from it and so on all the way around. 3 Am i going to need a specail tool to remove the pressure plate? no specail tools needed you use a phillips head screw driver and a open end wrench to hold the asher on the plate to remove it. be sure not to strip the head out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsol67 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 1 If I use the heavy duty springs will it make the tug on the clutch cable much harder? or should I just leave the ones that are in it? when you use the HD springs your clutch will be much stiffer then befor assuming you didnt have HD's already. but your clutch will hold much beter and not slip. 2 Is there any specail trick in replacing them? From the way the book looks like it they are offset. Is that correct? no special trick to puting them on you just got to torque them down and use the torque pattern to spread the pressure evenly. just do one and then the fathest from it and so on all the way around. 3 Am i going to need a specail tool to remove the pressure plate? no specail tools needed you use a phillips head screw driver and a open end wrench to hold the asher on the plate to remove it. be sure not to strip the head out. Thank you. I will have it this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I wouldnt recomend all springs..........use only three STIFF / three STOCK...........other wise your pull will be tough as sh*t :baseball_bat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 If they are the HD springs made by EBC use all of them because they aren't much stiffer than the stockers.If they are barnett springs then think about using only half of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I wouldnt recomend all springs..........use only three STIFF / three STOCK...........other wise your pull will be tough as sh*t :baseball_bat: Its not that much stiffer, I don't even notice it anymore. Whats the point of buying HD springs when you're going to throw 3 old stock springs back in there. If they're 10% stiffer than stock, and stock pull is say 10 lbs (yes Im making numbers up), HD springs will make it 11 lbs. Thats not going to cause major arm pump, or give you carpal tunnel. You will notice its slightly stiffer the first time you ride it, and never think about it again. Run all the springs, and enjoy a sturdier clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee4Drag Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hi, I just ordered clutch plates and fibers w/ the heavy duty springs from RMATV and I have a few questions. 1 If I use the heavy duty springs will it make the tug on the clutch cable much harder? or should I just leave the ones that are in it? 2 Is there any specail trick in replacing them? From the way the book looks like it they are offset. Is that correct? 3 Am i going to need a specail tool to remove the pressure plate? Thanks Ron Hey, Ron, 1 no special tool needed to do a rather easly performed clutch job....And TWO WHY would you buy new HD springs and only use half.... There is a reason why you need HD springs and a better reason why not to only use Half of them....you want the Draw of HD sprins around the HOLE circle NOT half...Use the springs, Adjust the clutch so you have ABOUT 1/4 inch free play at the arm, on the motor and ENJOY the Harder grabeer shee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odaen Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 And TWO WHY would you buy new HD springs and only use half.... There is a reason why you need HD springs and a better reason why not to only use Half of them....you want the Draw of HD sprins around the HOLE circle NOT half...Use the springs Alternating 3 stiffer springs with stockers is a pretty common practice which seems to be a good compromise between a stiff clutch pull and a tight clutch. It's not like you have half of your cluth with stiff and half with soft springs, it averages out to be somewhere between the stiff and soft springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I agree...3 and 3 with an EZ Pull perch and lever is the way to go. You only have some bolt on parts, no porting, etc. Once you start getting into the 60 to 65+HP range...then you'll need the stiffies... I ran Jeff from FAST's clutch all year last year on my stock motor, T5'd bike with 3 and 3. I'm using the same clutch this year on my 4 mil cub, more than twice the HP of my old motor, same clutch, all 6HD springs, and it's holding up quite nicely. No need to kill your forearms and fingers for a basic bolt on motor... :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thats not going to cause major arm pump, or give you carpal tunnel. You will notice its slightly stiffer the first time you ride it, and never think about it again. Run all the springs, and enjoy a sturdier clutch. Maybe for you..........But I tend to use my clutch a lot...............kinda like MX'n............sounds as though you dont do that type of riding................are you a 5 sec dragger? :yelrotflmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawarriorman Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Maybe for you..........But I tend to use my clutch a lot...............kinda like MX'n............sounds as though you dont do that type of riding................are you a 5 sec dragger? :yelrotflmao: Nothing but trails and MX. I use the clutch all the time. Its just that its not that stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 I ran all stiff springs w/my Barnett and HATED it. However, I think my cable had a lot to do w/it. It was all corroded and shit, but I didn't know it. A new cable probably would have made it a lot easier. Also, when you install the clutch, don't forget to line up the arm with the arrow on the case. If you don't know what I'm talking about, find out before you install it. I (and some others) know from experience. You'll fry that sucker and couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDS2106 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Nothing but trails and MX. I use the clutch all the time. Its just that its not that stiff. Probably because you are running cheap ass EBC HD springs.The barnetts are thicker longer and a lot stiffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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