Eazy Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Due to last weekends sandbar trip, the Shee' is gettin' bored .020", using a kit from Vito's Performance which comes with all the goods(my buddy ordered it w/o me knowing,lol). I know i'll need to re-jet it, but what else do I need? Mods are in sig. Its basically gettin' new rings,pistons,rod bearing(which was bad),etc. Anybody have a clue as to what jets I'll need? I think it will be a 352 Shee when all is said and done. We're tryin' to get it all rapped back up so we can hit up the Badlands on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 If you're just replacing the top end, and the jetting was correct before the rebuild...you DO NOT need to rejet. It will be a 352...don't expect any major performance improvements by the 6cc's you just got Since you're taking the crank out anyways, get all new bearings and have it welded for strength/reliability.... Depending on your elevation...I'd probably say your a little lean on your mains. Those pipes wanna breathe, big time. You're running Shearer's on a stock, unported motor? How do they work for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVSWS6 Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Due to last weekends sandbar trip, the Shee' is gettin' bored .020", using a kit from Vito's Performance which comes with all the goods(my buddy ordered it w/o me knowing,lol). I know i'll need to re-jet it, but what else do I need? Mods are in sig. Its basically gettin' new rings,pistons,rod bearing(which was bad),etc. Anybody have a clue as to what jets I'll need? I think it will be a 352 Shee when all is said and done. We're tryin' to get it all rapped back up so we can hit up the Badlands on Sunday You have a good set of pipes but not a motor to run it with. You need to port that motor to run with those pipes. It will be sleepy without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 You have a good set of pipes but not a motor to run it with. You need to port that motor to run with those pipes. It will be sleepy without it. Kinda what I was thinking....still, tin cans welded together are better than stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 We're not taking the crank out, just everything above that...Its not broke, so Im not fixin' it The elevation around here is around +400's I think..The pipes on a basically stock motor isn't too bad, it has pretty good top end, and will out run an even-matched Shee' with T5's. Do you guys have a link for the porting? DIY site or somethin' like that? Im gonna try and get a set of reeds as well, Vforce 2's, Boyessen, somethin' along those lines. Need anything else? Where would I weld the crank, if for some reason I DO need to remove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilarious Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 What about a cool head with some interchangable domes to bump your compression up a little bit? You might as well get one to go with that new top end if you havent already. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbanshee Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I would definitley get a port job and some vforce reeds. Don't get the boyessen, they suck. A coolhead would help too. That would be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 If you plan on putting any power out of it, your stock crank needs to be welded. They weld the bearing journals so they don't spin. Any reputable builder on this site can do that for you...I don't know if I'd trust a local machine shop with no experience in this.... PM Jeff @ FASTOYS...he did my 4mil wiseco hot rod crank, his welding looks damn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy Posted August 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 The way its looking now, I'll be addin' a set of reeds to this setup...So, what jets should I bump up to?? Main/Pilot?? Whats the proper way to go about this? Even if I dont add the reeds, do you honestly think Im lean, the way it sits? Im new at this, so be nice..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Pilots are fine... Mains...I'd start at 350...see what happens. I think you'd have been better off with a more tame pipe on a stock motor/stock port bike. I have the same pipes...but...if you plan on future mods, drag porting and bigger carbs...they'll suit you well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojcool Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Pilots are fine... Mains...I'd start at 350...see what happens. I think you'd have been better off with a more tame pipe on a stock motor/stock port bike. I have the same pipes...but...if you plan on future mods, drag porting and bigger carbs...they'll suit you well... grrrrr, I don't know about 350's I doubt he can use the main he has in it. I think people put waaaaaaaay to much fuel in their bikes. But I'm just a car guy, don't listen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 grrrrr, I don't know about 350's I doubt he can use the main he has in it. I think people put waaaaaaaay to much fuel in their bikes. But I'm just a car guy, don't listen to me. OJ....you really do need to get more two stroke banshe tuning under your belt.... I had T5 pipes, pods, +4 timing AND a shaved flywheel...and 330 mains were spot on perfect for my bike, except when I went to Silver Lake Sand dunes....I could've used a 340.... This guy has Shearer pipes...which, again, I know from experiece flow much more through them than T5 pipes as I had.... So...he must compensate accordingly.... He runs in the same temps and elevation....so, 350 would be a perfect starting point... If memory recalls correctly....wasn't it you that said I tell people "ragged edge" and "unsafe" advice??? So the possibility of starting out rich....is that either of those? Trust me...320's in my bike with TOOMEY pipes would've melted it down in time. He'll be perfectly fine with 350s to start...and...safe. :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy Posted August 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Sounds good man, how do I know if I need bigger than 350 jet??? I bought the Shee' this way, so it wasn't my choice to put these pipes on it. I plan on breakin' this motor in at the Badlands, so it should be a pretty good time. Odd question, but why would you need a bigger jet at Silver Lake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullet Man Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 (edited) Sounds good man, how do I know if I need bigger than 350 jet??? I bought the Shee' this way, so it wasn't my choice to put these pipes on it. I plan on breakin' this motor in at the Badlands, so it should be a pretty good time. Odd question, but why would you need a bigger jet at Silver Lake? sweet so we're going to badlands you better call me when the time comes too remember Adam i outweigh you by atleast 70lbs (skinny lil shit) and had a clogged pilot jet when we raced...focker how you know if you need a more or less fuel, you perform plug chops after each change until you get a nice even brown color on the electrode. theres a how to somewhere on this site for plug chops and the desired color you want for an as close to optimum stoich mixture. you chop the plug after a WOT run. go WOT atleast thru 5th gear and immediately shutoff (pull clutch, turn key off) and coast to a stop. i can show you how to do it. also search on here you should be able to turn up pictures of what a plug should look like when the motor is tuned correctly who knows how to contact Eric Gorr? Eazy needs a good port job while he has it apart : Edited August 19, 2006 by Mullet Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Odd question, but why would you need a bigger jet at Silver Lake? I wish I could tell you... I ran 500ft drags all day long when Dusty D's was open in Standish....and that was about sea level... Checked my plugs religiously...they were perfect. I got done riding after a while at Silver Lake...and they were just a hair lean... Other guys have said the same...something about Silver lake...not sure. You need to do a proper plug chop...here's all you need to know: http://www.dfn.com/benkaren/plugchop.html Here's what you have to know... ojcool is a car guy, specifically Mustangs. And...he's big on Dyno Tuning. Dyno tuning is great for comparing mods, granted if they're done in the same day...within a relatively short time span. They can get you spot on for your jetting...but, you'll still have to fine tune your jetting once you get into "real world" riding... A dyno doesn't compensate for the exact elevation your riding at, etc.... A dyno is a great place to start...you'll always have a bit of fine tuning once you're at your desitination.... ojcool and I had a thread that turned ugly a while back...we're fine now...but it was very clear he's more into cars and dynos..which, the knowledge gained there doesn't always equate to a two stroke ATV tuning.... Is that fair, OJ? Daj... :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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