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i got a +4 lone star swinger and i noticed on all the picts everyone has the brace under the arm like in the pict here of this guys banshee on here...

 

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the axle i got said its ready to be used but it doesnt have anything like that... do you have to remove that from your stock swinger and put it on the new one or what?

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That is not a brace. It's called linkage. It allows for longer travel and changes the geometry of the suspension.

 

When you buy a swingarm, just ask if it's a linkless or link suspension. If they can't answer that question, buy it from someone that can.

 

Now...the next point to ponder. Once you go more than +2...you're gonna need at the least a stiffer spring, or a revalve/rebuild. Longer arms put more leverage on the shock, causing it to be softer than warm butter.

 

If you get a linkless rear swinger, you'll really need to go stiff on the spring....

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ok cool ill have to see if its linkless or not casue lone star claims its ready to go... good thing i asked befor i sent the shock out and had it revauvled to get it redone again... as far as the spring goes you dont have to go stiffer if you have the shock revauvled for the + length do you?

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I'm not a shock expert...but, yes, you do.

 

Valving in a shock and spring tesion are two separate and different things.

 

Someone here jump in and correct me if I'm way off, but valving controls how the shock compresses and retracts...the spring basically supports the weight and helps the valving.

 

I know thats' a loose interpretation...but, yes...you will have to get a stiffer spring along with getting the valving changed for your type of riding, weight, etc....

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i showed wesw my swinger he said i got a normal setup swinger that runs the linkage....

 

thanks dajogejr

 

lonestar kinda miss represented the swinger i was under the interp that you didnt need it... now i got a dark grey swinger with that gay silver linkage

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Good question. It'll be a lot less than if you rode in dirt/mud. Mud ruins polished parts after a ride...

 

RNBrad has more bling on his quad and he's a big time duner...might want to ask him how he keeps his shit so purty....

 

Big Boy Banshee has a lot of chrome and polish too, but...I think he's more into street. Not 100% sure on that one....

 

I'm gonna stay away from the bling factor...I like the idea of a plain Jane looking sleeper. Hell...I might paint my cubs black one of these days...:)

 

:beer:

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It's no different than say wheels on you truck. If you run aluminum spun wheels then you will need to just keep up on them when it is necessary. If things start looking dull then repolish them with aluminum polish.

 

I read all over the place on here that you could run the stock shock up to a +4, and if you went to a +6 then you needed to revalve and or re-spring the shock. Because if what you are saying is true then that throws another monkey wrench into my +4 or +6 swinger, cub motored shee (hell-of-a-description ha). I also heard that you can't jump with a +6 or you'll tear it up or break it.

 

Don't mean to contradict, but what up with that.............? :beer:

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All depends on what kind of swinger you get. If my rear shock was up to snuff, I'd have no qualms about jumping it. Not much of a jumper myself, though.

 

If you really think about it...once you start getting into high HP motors, you're flying around dunes and drag racing most of the time I'd say. How much do you plan on jumping it?

 

Drag swingers are light, and not meant to jump. I have a steel yamie style carrier swinger, and it's every bit as strong (and heavy) as a stocker...

 

Planning on a +8 or +10 roundhouse style one of these days. It's on "the list"...

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like i was talking to dajogejr about until i win the lotto im not going to go buckwild on it casue i injoy dumping and riding mor then just drag.. so i dont feel like the maintnance of a drag bike right now... costs too much... id rather have a bike that i can go smoke some bitches on and still have fun riding with the boys too..

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