Geoff Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 (edited) OK, I got rid of my tors and put smaller pilots in and now my bike is running good. Just got back from Winchester Bay yesterday and the only thing my bike was really loosing to was some drag bikes. I just bought this bike about a month ago....it has a fmf fatty pipes,boyesen reeds(stock cages I was told), head shaved .030", 310/27.5-needle middle clip, +4 timing(stock plate drilled). The guy said it has a race port but I haven't had the motor apart to look and see. I was wanting some input on what to do next. I'm going to lighten the flywheel but I'm new to this and not sure what the best thing to do next is. I only dune ride, but drag,hillshoot,trails,etc..a little of everything. I'm thinking If I do have port work done that the pipes are holding me back(heard yes&no on CPI's?). But I don't know if I should get the v-force3's and passion intake or what first. Please help me out, I know I can get more out of it until I take it down next winter. Thanks alot guys Geoff Edited May 29, 2006 by Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 If your little bit of riding is wide open most of the time, then get CPIs, Shearers...or other drag pipes. If not...keep what you have, get some T5s or PT highs... VForce are always a good mod...but, respond much better to ported motors than stock. Unless you personally know the guy you bought it off of...I'd take no one word that it's ported. Actually....what have you done with the suspension? Fast motor is great...if you can't hang on or it can't get it to the ground, it doesn't do you any good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I hear yuh, everything he's said has so far been truthful so thats all I have to go off of. The only thing that makes me think it is actually ported is I raced a 4 mil cheetah and can hang with him for the first 30-40yds then he starts pulling away...but not like I'm standing still. Suspension is stock except for a +6. I'm really thinking about some +2+1 a-arms. Shocks I know nothing about so not looking forward to that all that much since everyone has such different opinions. Have you used PT highs? I talked to cascade about them because a few of there bikes are running the mids. No one could comment about the highs they were only familiar with the mids. I don't want to lose all bottom end gaining topend or vise versa. The high revs sound good on paper, possibly the best of both worlds. I personally think the FMF's can be improved upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeseat$$ Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Go with the v-force reeds,bigger carbs and exhaust and it should hall a$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 MY Buddy has the mids...I can't say I've ridden one with highs. I can tell you T5s will smoke PT mids...hands down...but they don't pull as long or as hard as the drag pipes aboved mentioned... If you're staying that close to cub bikes, either they can't ride, you can ride very well...or, it's got some decent porting... Not trying to put you or anyone down with that statement, but it really takes someone that knows what they're doing to get the stock cylinders to breath comparible to cubs... Out of the box...they're pretty damn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 dajogejr, I'm decent and I think the guy may be just a decent rider also. But a friend who rode my bike who is a really good rider could stay with the the more hopped up bikes....one was that 4 mil cheetah, for about half track until when my pipes start fading in my opinion. I haven't rode a bike with CPI's and I don't know what there like. Some have told me they are the best all around pipe, Others have told me they have a light switch power band. I don't have enough experience to know who's right. I don't mind sacrificing a little, I just don't want to give up alot of bottom end. I've been into old cars for quite awhile and I understand to make horsepower you have to make sacrifices(ie..street drivability), but I also know that there are usually a somewhat happy medium. Thanks for your help so far guys. I love this site, it's help me alot so far. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Hey...no prob. Didn't mean that personal...everyone knows a better rider can do better on a lesser bike... CPIs, Shearers, Rockets are all top end pipes. Your porting can tune the "light switch" a little...but, it's a non-powervalved two stroke, there's only so much you can do. Everyone here has their favorites, and everyone here will tell you one is better than the other.... Ford vs. GM vs. Dodge...you know that one. I would do a ton of reading, see who has similar mods...and get a general consensus of what will work best for you. I don't think anyone would argue though...any of the afore mentioned pipes will have little or no bottom end. They will, however, shreak and pull like a mofo from mid to top, just as a drag pipe should. They're all good names...I wish I had the money to try one after the other after the other... But then again, that would do you NO good, since no two bikes are the same!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I hear yuh, everything he's said has so far been truthful so thats all I have to go off of. The only thing that makes me think it is actually ported is I raced a 4 mil cheetah and can hang with him for the first 30-40yds then he starts pulling away...but not like I'm standing still. Suspension is stock except for a +6. I'm really thinking about some +2+1 a-arms. Shocks I know nothing about so not looking forward to that all that much since everyone has such different opinions. Have you used PT highs? I talked to cascade about them because a few of there bikes are running the mids. No one could comment about the highs they were only familiar with the mids. I don't want to lose all bottom end gaining topend or vise versa. The high revs sound good on paper, possibly the best of both worlds. I personally think the FMF's can be improved upon. 522127[/snapback] I've used the PT Hi-rev's, PT mids and T-5's. The Hi-rev's have decent bottom and good midrange and have a great top end. I had T-5's (best all around pipe) and wanted more topend but like you didn't want to give up all bottom and mid. The Hi-rev's fit the bill. I did loose a little bottom and midrange but gained it on the top. Great pipe for the ocasional drag race. just my 2 cents.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hey everybody thanks for all the info. dajogejr, I wouldn't take anything like that personal.....I'm learning man, you call it as you see it which is how you should. I wish I could test them all out also. Thats alot of coin to shell out and be unsure thats why I'm asking so much about them......My money tree looks like a bonzai tree,lol. I'm recently divorced from a financial nightmare of an ex....enough said. I'll keep searching and learning, any other info you got to share is great....Keep it coming. Thanks Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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