helldriver Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 (edited) :yelrotflmao: god doesnt say if you dont follow me you'll burn in hell, he says if when i load the bus if your not on it im leaving without you........ utter fucking bullshit prove it..... you guys are just going in circles here. as i have proved this many times. i cant help it if youre to stupid tio see it, but i'll post some more proof anyways You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20 Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16 Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7 Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13 and wheater i take it out the the paragragh OR copy just those sentances,,, it still says to kill, no matter how you look at it and umm here some lies that the bible has about how the earth was formed,, now i'm not saying science is 1000 percent right either, but come on man,,, The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite. Edited July 1, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 :yelrotflmao: you guys are just going in circles here. as i have proved this many times. i cant help it if youre to stupid tio see it, but i'll post some more proof anyways You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20 Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16 Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7 Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13 and wheater i take it out the the paragragh OR copy just those sentances,,, it still says to kill, no matter how you look at it and umm here some lies that the bible has about how the earth was formed,, now i'm not saying science is 1000 percent right either, but come on man,,, The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 :yelrotflmao: you guys are just going in circles here. as i have proved this many times. i cant help it if youre to stupid tio see it, but i'll post some more proof anyways You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20 Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16 Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7 Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13 and wheater i take it out the the paragragh OR copy just those sentances,,, it still says to kill, no matter how you look at it and umm here some lies that the bible has about how the earth was formed,, now i'm not saying science is 1000 percent right either, but come on man,,, The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Oh yeah, forgot to mention the dinosaur chapter Job 40 figured you knew w/ your skills. (HELP! somebody stop me I can't help myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Oh yeah, forgot to mention the dinosaur chapter Job 40 figured you knew w/ your skills. (HELP! somebody stop me I can't help myself) Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 (edited) aghin RK, If the bible just came out and stated things clearly instead of riddles and around the bush way of looking at things, people might belive it more so now we have to pick out what things to look at as truth and what to look for as a metaphor? meanwhile all you bible assholes say eVERYTHNING in the bible is real? its funny that when something is proven to be false or condradicts its self in the bible, you just "oh thats not to be taken literaly" so how are we to know what parts are true and what parts are not to be taken literlay? it seams like justa bullshit way of trying to weasel your way out of truth and you said Unicorns may have been extint??? LOL :yelrotflmao: thats good one, being they CLEARLY NEVER existed in the first place,,, man you would belive anything wouldnt you? hahahaa Edited July 1, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 when are we gonna start talkin about Noah's ark :baseball_w00t: I got 30 questions about that one :baseball_innocent: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 aghin RK, If the bible just came out and stated things clearly instead of riddles and around the bush way of looking at things, people might belive it more so now we have to pick out what things to look at as truth and what to look for as a metaphor? meanwhile all you bible assholes say eVERYTHNING in the bible is real? its funny that when something is proven to be false or condradicts its self in the bible, you just "oh thats not to be taken literaly" so how are we to know what parts are true and what parts are not to be taken literlay? it seams like justa bullshit way of trying to weasel your way out of truth and you said Unicorns may have been extint??? LOL :yelrotflmao: thats good one, being they CLEARLY NEVER existed in the first place,,, man you would belive anything wouldnt you? hahahaa Elasmotherium re 'em look it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 BULLSHIT look that up, cause youre full of it and meat, dont get started on noahs ark,,, there is about 17836489458958 reasons why that could never have happened :yelrotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enFORCER Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Why must one believe in God or some super natural power to be considered a good person? I believe it is much harder not to believe, than to believe. It's just to easy to believe that there is some All Mighty God that is just waiting for you to die, so he can provide you with an eternal paradise. It's much harder to put something that easy aside and believe that the real power is in your self. Believing there is no God means all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future. Because only then will we realize the real power for good is within us all, and only then will mankind achieve peace. Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Wow how refreshing & kind to have some disagee and not call you a *#*# I can see your point of perspective it is hard to live life on your own strength. I used to do it. it also seems admirable to do it on your own. Not with the help of a crutch (god). also I can see your point of taking care of real priorities instead of some hope in the sky. after all it does seem like a lot of stale religious rhetoric. This is my perspective if there is no god you borrow many ideas from christianity that you cannot defend. significance, meaning, purpose, and love.Dust does not possess this. These ideas can only be connected to eternitywith a ultimate authority. Those ideas may keep you warm and fuzzy but your no different than the chair your sitting on just chemicals arranged different. With out God theres no right or wrong way to live life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) umm Rkc, those are NATURAL emotions,, along with greed, lust, hate,,, and other ones that god says to not engage in,, but then WHY would he give us those emotions in the first place,,, i induldge in all my Natural emotions,,, when i love people, or animals etc, i give them 110 percent of it when i hate someone i also give 110 percent of hate to them god has nothing to do with those feelings if you belive in god , I see God as a sadist,, he laughs at you, he gives you those emotions, than says dont use them,,, ya see how silly that sounds,,, Edited July 2, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shee-Male Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) Why must one believe in God or some super natural power to be considered a good person? I believe it is much harder not to believe, than to believe. It's just to easy to believe that there is some All Mighty God that is just waiting for you to die, so he can provide you with an eternal paradise. It's much harder to put something that easy aside and believe that the real power is in your self. Believing there is no God means all the suffering in the world, isn't caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn't bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future. Because only then will we realize the real power for good is within us all, and only then will mankind achieve peace. Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have. enFORCER, you're brilliant! Most of the bible pushers are raised that way, many people don't want to rock the boat so they go along with it, baptising their kids and dragging them to chuch because it used to be a social thing and in some places still is, this is also why we are reffered to as sheep in the bible. They say the bible is time tested..well thats before the knowlage we've gained over the years. Think about it, its 200AD and your standing outside in your sandles and the clouds roll in, and a bolt of lightning takes out a tree crushing a local villager who apperantly stole a chunk of bread, knowing nothing about electricity or weather this looks like an act of "gods" wrath, yet if this happened today we know different. With all the advancments in technolagy comes knowlage, we retain and know more in our yonng years then the previous generation (sorry ol' BLUE), this is (like it or not) proof of evolution. Meat, you think the story of Noha's ark is far fetched, you should see some of the other stories :baseball_w00t: like the tower of babble, the story of Johna, ask your friends mom, you'll get a kick out of those. I'm deefinatley on the same page as you, the bible is missing HUGE chuncks of fact like this VAST universe, primitive man, or new species created. Because the bible was originally written in sandscript, its translation it less than perfect and very vague, so people interprit it differently to suit their needs or belifes, you could argue the same for the existance of the tooth fairy. If religion realy dose interst you, you should check out the others from around the globe, I studdied world religions for 3 years and let me tell ya there is some interesting stuff, all with their own reasons of our exsirtance and why their religion is the "real" one, its also neat to see the trend of religion and even how some early egyption belifes and characters were adopted by chritianity. It realy is interesting. :baseball_original: Edited July 2, 2006 by Shee-Male Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) From goo to you by way of the zoo where do you get all your blind faith. you talk & talk about right and wrong, but can you defend that their is any moral truth? your sooo self absorbed "thats enough about me what do you think about me" you think your so smart go ahead answer the question.My posts will get smaller and smaller because you can"t even answer one question. Edited July 2, 2006 by rkc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustbag Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 "I love lamp." :baseballcap_white: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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