yfzut Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Duece it's pretty sad that none of these guys like HD understand the points you make. because there is no logic to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. 30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) o4 le just takes quotes out of context, and not use the entire parts, hr dosent even know what hes saaying, now look at more bible contradictions man who can belive such crap Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed Luke 12:4 Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed John 7:1 Public prayer sanctioned 1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3 Public prayer disapproved Matt 6:5,6 Importunity in prayer commended Luke 18:5,7 Importunity in prayer condemned Matt 6:7,8 The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5 The wearing of long hair by men condemned 1 Cor 11:14 Circumcision instituted Gen 17:10 Circumcision condemned Gal 5:2 The Sabbath instituted Ex 20:8 The Sabbath repudiated Is 1:13/ Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16 The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day Ex 20:11 The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites out of Egypt Deut 5:15 No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death Ex 31:15/ Num 15:32,36 Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his disciples in the same John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5 . Baptism commanded Matt 28:19 Baptism not commanded 1 Cor 1:17,14 Every kind of animal allowed for food. Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14 Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food. Deut 14:7,8 Taking of oaths sanctioned Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13 Taking of oaths forbidden Matt 5:34 Marriage approved Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4 Marriage disapproved 1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8 Freedom of divorce permitted Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14 Divorce restricted Matt 5:32 Adultery forbidden Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4 Adultery allowed Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3 . Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17 Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16 A man may marry his brother's widow Deut 25:5 A man may not marry his brother's widow Lev 20:21 Hatred to kindred enjoined Luke 14:26 Edited June 28, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 4 yr old "the sky is blue" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 4 yr old "the sky is blue" 4 yr old "the sky is black" seemingly a contradiction,but it's not 4 yr old "the sky is always blue" 4 yr old "the sky is always black" seemingly a contradiction ....with more information.... 4 yr old "the sky is always blue during the day" 4 yr old "the sky is always black during the night" ...it's not. 4 yr old "the sky is always only blue" 4 yr old "the sky is always only black" real contradiction! This is not just semantics it's logic. Their is an art & science to reading the bible...it is both simple and complex (somthing can be both and not a contradiction). You have to want to read it with your mind and not just your feelings. It must be read in context: Historical context Target audience metaphors and sayings of the times etc... (sorry about other unfinished post you should not leave computer on with kids or cats!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 (edited) you keep talking about keeping it in CONTEXT,,w ell when you bible morons quote stuff, it is oyt of contect,, how come thats ok? dont care how IN CONTEXT it is,, it still is full of PROVEN lies, contradictions, and it advocates sex with children, necrophilla, murder, rape, scarifce, pillaging, and just the fact that it says "if you dont follow god, you must be put to death" now i dont care how you say that is, it says it, advocatres it, and MEANs it Edited June 29, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 This is the best definition...or better yet LAWS of logic I've ever read. 1. the law of noncontradiction (A is not non A) 2.the law of identity (A is A) and 3.the law of excluded middle (either A or non A) Of course you care thats why you respond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Question from a guy who has NO religios up bringing whatsoever...... When you guys are prayin' to your gods..... and your all on your knees with your head bowed and your all serious and shit..... and you got the palms of your hands together in that praying position..... I wanna know what the deal is with the hands. Why do you hold your hands like that when your prayin' ?? whats up with that ?? I got a pile mile of stupid religious questions for yas. ps. Bow your heads or we'll bow em for ya !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkc Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Jesus sure can piss you off can't he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 (edited) and i can piss off jesus!! and ANY of his mindless followers Edited June 29, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 everytime i see this silly topic, i think of a wonderful song from deicide called creatures of habit. gory evil voice, yes but he makes more sence than my own mother or most of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Question from a guy who has NO religios up bringing whatsoever...... When you guys are prayin' to your gods..... and your all on your knees with your head bowed and your all serious and shit..... and you got the palms of your hands together in that praying position..... I wanna know what the deal is with the hands. Why do you hold your hands like that when your prayin' ?? whats up with that ?? I got a pile mile of stupid religious questions for yas. ps. Bow your heads or we'll bow em for ya !! Glad to see you arent a human buoy in PA, meat. everytime i see this silly topic, i think of a wonderful song from deicide called creatures of habit. gory evil voice, yes but he makes more sence than my own mother or most of yours. What in the world do you wish to achieveWhy do you think you'll get something for free Look in yourself, is it worth what you said It may be you who comes turning up dead Lives are worth nothing unless you have something to gain Loath in assumtion, you really should watch what you say When you are wrong it is all just a part of the game Creatures of habit, the bullshit is always the same Eye for an eye, applaud when you die Shit on your grave for the rest of my life Faces of two will divide for control You are the pawns in this world all alone Creatures of habit, to cease to exist Now that it's over you'll get what you give Creatures of habit, I daydream you dead Choking the life from you with my bare hands What in the world is becoming of greed Why do you wish to continue this dream Look at myself, isn't worth what I'm dealt This may be for you but I'm getting out Unfair decision you try to impose out of spite In their own interest they care and pretend to be nice I will not have it and now that I've opened my eyes Creatures of habit, I have no respect for your kind ahh yes. genius level stuff there.....AN EYE FOR AN EYE....SHIT ON YOUR GRAVE..... man, your mom must suck if thats beyond her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 i dont think he really means shit on your grave, hes just expressing his anger. come on, and you cant just read the song you need to hear him express it. its very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 i dont think he really means shit on your grave, hes just expressing his anger. come on, and you cant just read the song you need to hear him express it. its very good. i was commenting on your claim of him making so much sense. those lyrics are about as deep as 'im a little tea pot' hes not saying anything different than what can be heard at dairy queen when i walk past a bunch of 15 year old emo GIRLS. oh snap. theres nothing wrong with enjoying whatever music you want to enjoy. i just find it laughable when people look up to bands like they are some sort of GODS. oh double snap. if what some overpaid musician screams into a microphone means more to you than what your momma says, you got issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 "if you dont follow god, you must be put to death" thats funny thats the same thing i tell MY kids everytime i take them out in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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