rjvoight Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 , I raced a gncc race this weekend How did you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 i raced novice c 29+ class got a 16th place finish out of 23 riders,,,, :beer: my buddy beat me by 4 minutes and got 15th fun time indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjvoight Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Im pretty torn right now. I used to ride the local MX Track pretty regulary (KX 250). Last year I rode 2 times. I have yet to make it to the track this year the bike is just collecting dust sitting next to the Banshee and the wifes Raptor. I know if I sell it, depending on business, it would be a couple years at least before I could replace it. I used to love riding at the dunes on a bike, but with the family and friends, none of whom ride bikes, it just sucks. I am constantly fighting the bike as they put along from hill climb to hill climb. I don't know. It may be time to let it go. Its an 02. It had a rough season its first year (well, I went down several times) but I have taken good care of her and she is a low hour bike. We'll see. Oh, HD I know the topic of religion gets pretty hot. I have nothing against you personally. Just understand it is not a "religion" to me. In my opinion, religion is what man makes. Rules and regulations. Someone can have religion and have absolutely no relationship with God. I know you can't understand what I am saying. But I assure you I am not insane. There is no way for me to explain to you or anyone for that matter what it is like to be able to speak directly to God/ Jesus Christ. You got to experiance it and you don't have any desire to do that, and it is your choice. People ask, well if you are talking to him what does he say? I believe there are people who actually hear the voice of Jesus. I think they are far and few between. Most of us it gentle guideance. Subtle thought changes, circumstances that arise. So many other people say, well I prayed and got no answer. Well I would say they got an answer....the answer was no.... or not right now. Anyway take it easy, glad you had a good time riding and came back in one piece. RJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 yeah man, racing is a blast i do it when i can i race my yfz 450 in GNCC,, and keep the shee for riding the local sand mines and stuff its alot of fun and religion,, i have nothing against you personally, I just cant beive something there is no factual proof of, besides, i like the darker stuff, and i wouldnt follow jesus even if he was real anyways you can believe what ever you like,, and just keep riding!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 so if you don't believe in gods, your 100% a pussy ?? you can have faith in your fellow man, you can have faith in a can of beans if you want that to be your god, you don't have need faith in an invisble being in the sky to be Mr. Macho. Faith and being a good person has nothing to do with worshiping gods. Remember kiddies..... if you don't pray to our god...... your a pussy. No you don't have to pray to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droppedatbirth Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) Prove that there is a god, you cant, prove that there isint. you cant. religion is a hard subject, but dont call everyone a pussy who dont belive. its not allways about that. i dont care what war you were in if you were a true beliver you wouldnt say stupid shit like that. EDIt; Back then they had to have faith or they were killed... so dont you think the so called pussies would say they had faith just so they wouldn't be killed? ........... Edited June 27, 2006 by Droppedatbirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 i tend to believe in the "many paths to one goal" philosophy when it comes to religion and faith. :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) Prove that there is a god, you cant, prove that there isint. you cant. religion is a hard subject, but dont call everyone a pussy who dont belive. its not allways about that. i dont care what war you were in if you were a true beliver you wouldnt say stupid shit like that. EDIt; Back then they had to have faith or they were killed... so dont you think the so called pussies would say they had faith just so they wouldn't be killed? ........... Your right I used the wrong word maybe Edited June 27, 2006 by Blue Duece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) blue douche, dont back down, call people pussies , and scream it loud!!! here is a little fact, more people have died because of god, than ANY other cause that is fact Edited June 27, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droppedatbirth Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 This is realy a never ending argument. people who belive cant show facts, people who dont cant show facts, it will never end. there is no way to show that either sides are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 17:7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 and we will always have 04le posting quotes that no one reads,, and typinmg stuff that is in riddles :yelrotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 here is a little fact, more people have died because of god, than ANY other cause that is fact i agree 100 % helldriver, it sucks too but thats the truth, more people have died over god than all the aids and car wrecks and wars than anything else, but that kinda proves my point, humans have faith in something bigger than them, be it god, or the devil, even you idolizing slayer, we all look at the bigger picture....i was listening to slayer today, the drummer can do double tripplets with his feet for four minutes and thirty eight seconds......not to bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i agree 100 % helldriver, it sucks too but thats the truth, more people have died over god than all the aids and car wrecks and wars than anything else, but that kinda proves my point, humans have faith in something bigger than them, be it god, or the devil, even you idolizing slayer, we all look at the bigger picture....i was listening to slayer today, the drummer can do double tripplets with his feet for four minutes and thirty eight seconds......not to bad WRONG, all that proves is we have alot of stupid fuckers in this world. if you need to die for a god, then he never was much of a god anyway. to ask that of you even in his own riddled sort of way is very self absorbed and bullshit. why cant people just think, just for a minute in a manner that makes sense. even if it goes against thegrain of your family and freinds, just try it you might like it. faith=weak faith=retardation beleive in yourself and when you do something good pat yourself on the back not your fake friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Duece it's pretty sad that none of these guys like HD understand the points you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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