PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Thanks for proving my point. "evolution: ...the doctrine according to which higher forms of life have gradually arisen out of lower.." - Chambers "evolution: ...the development of a species, organism, or organ from its original or primitive state to its present or specialized state; phylogeny or ontogeny" - Webster's These definitions are simply wrong. Unfortunately it is common for non-scientists to enter into a discussion about evolution with such a definition in mind. Again, by simplified definition evolution can't create a human from a worm. So where did we come from? it had to start somewhere and evolution doesn't explain that. if you take a sperm cell and burn it you kill life, but more important you are re-arrangeing the atoms it is composed of. Now given enough time, why couldnt those atoms come back together to re-form the sperm cell. very simple to understand how it works. It doesnt take much for life to create it's self, mostly just time. Again I reiterate. An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science We've reached our goal of gathering 10,000 clergy signatures. The next step in our campaign is outlined here. See below to endorse the following letter Click here to learn more about the "Clergy Letter Project" Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted June 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 from what it's made of atoms. You are the one who keeps making the worm analogy, we didnt come from worms. We have our own path of evolution that ultimatley will end in atoms coming together to form molecules. Inteligent design is riduclus. If god is an intelligent something, it's made of something, so where did that something come from? If god exists it consists of something, and it did not manifest it's self from nothing. If it consists of nothing then It does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 so well then who created god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 If god is an intelligent something, it's made of something, so where did that something come from? If god exists it consists of something, and it did not manifest it's self from nothing. If it consists of nothing then It does not exist. Atleast you finally raise a good question. Maybe 04LE or Rocketboy can help you with that one. I don't care if you believe in God or not it really doesn't matter to me. The reason I've been posting is because you, Butt Driver and others have a belief that evolution contradicts creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted June 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 It directly contrdicts some forms of Creationism, and fits in a little with others. which one do you refer to as your belief? CREATION Flat Earthers Geocentrists Young Earth Creationists (Omphalos) Old Earth Creationists (Gap Creationism) (Day-Age Creationism) (Progressive Creationism) (Intelligent Design Creationism) Evolutionary Creationists Theistic Evolutionists Methodological Materialistic Evolutionists Philosophical Materialistic Evolutionists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) and you didnt answer my question? where did god come from? and oh here is something to ponder All of the animals boarded the ark Edited June 6, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 It directly contrdicts some forms of Creationism, and fits in a little with others. which one do you refer to as your belief? CREATION Flat Earthers Geocentrists Young Earth Creationists (Omphalos) Old Earth Creationists (Gap Creationism) (Day-Age Creationism) (Progressive Creationism) (Intelligent Design Creationism) Evolutionary Creationists Theistic Evolutionists Methodological Materialistic Evolutionists Philosophical Materialistic Evolutionists I refer to none of them, they may refer to me I don't know. I'm of the belief that if God can create a world he can create a world that appears to have come from some other reasoning just as easy as he could have added "Made by God" nameplates to everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) hmm i wonder how this could have ever happned? Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long (Genesis 6:14-15). The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since? Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of Edited June 6, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted June 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I he could have added "Made by God" nameplates to everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) Apparently even the Catholic church have decided to admit in the face of OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE that Evolution did indeed happen. Gee, they Edited June 6, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Apparently even the Catholic church have decided to admit in the face of OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE that Evolution did indeed happen. Gee, they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) they ahve acknowlleged evolution,,, dont you read up on this stuff,, FFS, i fuckin hate religion and i know more of whats going on, than you and more questions that you bible freaks cant/and or wont answer if god is real, WHO made him? why is that out ot thousands of other religions, why is YOURS the correct one? Edited June 6, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 they ahve acknowlleged evolution,,, dont you read up on this stuff,, FFS, i fuckin hate religion and i know more of whats going on, than you You haven't read any of the last 20 posts have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 yup, and still you cant answer thsoe two simple qiestions NOR can you excplain the whole noahs ark stuff i brought up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 but the real important thing is, did anybody buy the limited edition shirts from the slayer site. they only made 666 of them and they already sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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