helldriver Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 (edited) well i have read thr bible, many times, its a good STORY, just like a horror flick, lots of violence, deciet, hate, blood, gore killing ,torture ..devils, and the imagery of revaltions is awesome,, inspired many metal bands to write songs!!!! and all i have put before you is real quotes from the book you hold dear like it or not your religion is only a distiorted vision of the bible,, you have taken what parts suit you and made this so caled religion but if it makes you happy, than all power to ya me i want no part of your , or any other religion i live by my own , i know right from wrong, up from domn, i can deal with things on my own, and dont need a fake god to help me out I do not accept the Bible as God Edited May 29, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 you know, to want to listen to this kind of music, you first have to think along these lines of a lack of god or say a hate for the church. so you couldnt possibly understand the feeling you get listening to such bands. whatever it is you listen to, you are drawn to it for a reason. 519541[/snapback] What i do is listen to music for a living, since the early eighties my studio's have hosted every group from abba to zz top, including slayer anthrax megadeath, tons of Christian artist's, Goth bands, glam bands, devil groups and all the other fucking morons that have graced the streets of Hollywood looking to become famous, one thing the aforementioned band wont do for me is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) ya see thats exctatly what im looking for when i listen to music,, if most people hate it,, than i likie it fuck the mainstream just saw a show tonight that featured god hating bands,, VADER, KATAKLYSM, and DESTRUCTION -l- i listen to everytuing from ac/dc to Zyklon Edited May 30, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) why ya listening to ac/dc angus and them believe in god, so does ozzy for that matter, you falling into the hype? you need to stay true to your nonsense, you might as well listen to the backstreetboys as to listen to ac/dc, see you need to ask ozzy who he was praying to while sharon was dieing of cancer Edited May 30, 2006 by Blue Duece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 now come on dickdiver why aint you answering my post, you go night night?........its 10.30 on the west coast so at most its 1.30 where your at.....i thought you devil guys stayed up all night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) ac/dc are just kick ass rock,,, as a matter of fact they have references to the dark side, with such songs like "hell aibnt a bad place to be" or highway to hell, even some religious groups have ac/dc on their "hate list" but who cares man, they rock, i thought you so called "christiians" think metal is the devils music? hell even led zepp was into the dark arts, page bought alister crowelys castle, and was practicing his works,,, hell half their songs are a tribute to hell and alister as well as ozzys song mr crowley BUT i really only like ozzy in sabbath one does not have to be a so called "devil worshipper" to play good music,, BUT i bet blue douche listens to stryper, :whos image was a sfake as their religion by the way" or a pussy band like creed, Edited May 30, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted May 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to eight prophecies, 'we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 10-17power ." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 10-17power silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. "Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man." Stoner considers 48 prophecies and says, "we find the chance that any one man fulfilled all 48 prophecies to be 1 in 10-157,power or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. The estimated number of electrons in the universe is around 1079. It should be quite evident that Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies by accident." 520745[/snapback] Ok I found what I was looking for finally The number you found was for "empty space" or the estimated mass in a vacum. For the Earth there's another way of getting the number. mass of Earth = 6 x 10^34 kg. Divide that by 4000 and you have the mass of electrons in the Earth. = 1.5 x 10^31 kg. (roughly) Mass of electron = 10^-30 kg (approx) Electrons in the Earth = 1.5 x 10^61. Now! try to imagine another 18 orders of magnitude more. To give a flat universe the average mass is about 10^-26 kg/m^3 or about 6 protons per cubic meter. Since our universe is expanding the actual value is a little less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 there are many who believe in evolution because they have rejected God. For those who refuse to believe in the Creator, evolution becomes their only escape. They generally make no pretense of believing it based on anything other than their disbelief in God. Henry Fairfield Osborn, one of the most famous evolutionists of the early twentieth century, suggested: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 ya know whats funny about cockboy,, people can post proof that the bible is wrong, and we can post absoulte factual scientific proof, and cock boy will say it not real, say the site is bogus, come up with some sort of bullshit answer,, BUT when he posts something as silly as what he posts as proof, { i mean might as well be from the weekly world news for fucks sake} , but then it must the the truth please cocdk boy, stop being silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 ya know whats funny about cockboy,, people can post proof that the bible is wrong, and we can post absoulte factual scientific proof, and cock boy will say it not real, say the site is bogus, come up with some sort of bullshit answer,, BUT when he posts something as silly as what he posts as proof, { i mean might as well be from the weekly world news for fucks sake} , but then it must the the truth please cocdk boy, stop being silly please i have yet to see any real proof the bible is fake by you guys my above post was no rebutal of proof . it was meant to stimulate some thought as to why creationism is so hard for non christians to accept and how athesists try to conjure up theorys to push away their creator and make their own rules in life . it was not meant for the feable minded to respond to ,such as yourself . only time i ever made referrance to your bogus claims was when you started posting supposed scripture that was terribly innacurate and taken way out of context . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I CANT BELEIVE SO MANY PEOPLE CAN BE SO FUCKING STUPID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I CANT BELEIVE SO MANY PEOPLE CAN BE SO FUCKING STUPID. i would have to concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 BUT i bet blue douche listens to stryper, :whos image was a sfake as their religion by the way" actually i recorded Stryper back in about 98 and they fucked me outta 6 grand on their tab, that just tells me all you assholes are full of shit.......to set the record straight i listen to musicians, guys like larry carlton, jeff beck, eric clapton......... Boston has some good musicians, i listen to shit that sonicly was recorded well........just cause some asshole denounces god and picks up a guitar, does'nt make his shit palletable, DickSmoker at 37 years old you should have a family with 2 or 3 kids running around, you not being married at that age just tells me your A: Gay as the day is long or B: your a fucking warped Moron that no chick will have......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 (edited) yeah ok blue douche, sure you recorded them, sure you recored slayer,, being that slayer use rick rubin since reign in blood in 1986,, and before that was bill metoyer and metal blade records,, i dont see blue douches name on the records go tell you tall tales to underaged women/ and or boys, cause your stories are as false as your religion Edited June 1, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 yeah ok blue douche, sure you recorded them, sure you recored slayer,, being that slayer use rick rubin since reign in blood in 1986,, and before that was bill metoyer and metal blade records,, i dont see blue douches name on the records go tell you tall tales to underaged women/ and or boys, cause your stories are as false as your religion tell him to listen to trey of morbid angel, and tell me that guy cant play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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