warwgn Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 in Genesis one it states that yes, adam was made later and in genesis 2 it states that of the beasts and birds and creatures that God has formed from the ground has brought them to adam so as to name and use at his discretion . 521405[/snapback] IMO the religious leaders at the time of Jesus had already perverted the old TESTament of God and were using it to build a ruling class/servant class society, while being hypocrites to their own laws...very much like today. The good and the evil of mans heart is perfectly inter-twined in the old TESTament as a means of preserving mans free will while at the same time, maintaining Gods purpose of refining us. In the old TESTament, I see Gods mercy more than I see his judgement. Jesus came as the old testament prophesied and was crucified for revealing that the ruling class were using religion to enslave us to their man made laws, and preached that all of the law and the prophets could be summed up like this "love the Lord God with all of your heart and all of your soul and all of your mind, and your neighbor as yourself." With that I see that I must first love myself before I can love my neighbor, and therefore also before I can love God. We are all a work in progress. Or you can love God first and ultimately learn to love yourself. It works both ways. 521515[/snapback] see was that so bad, did the world explode, did you suddenly go to hell, is your faith in god any less now? NO to all 3. the bible was written by man who we all know makes mistakes, it has errors just as all of mans works. my whole point is dont turn a blind eye to science and advancement and say it is wrong just because it contradicts what you believe. You may be interpreting your scripture wrong. At any rate this thread is dead to me now, I won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) if you need a god to love yourself,, your pathetic fuckin loser now on to #2 God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6 well which is it? Edited May 28, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6 well which is it? 521618[/snapback] are yo uthat dumb ? i n chapter 6 he is expressing his sadness that man has sinned and gone against his wishes ,he knew this would happen, but he didnt liek seeing adam sin and sin to be brought unto the world . give it up helldriver, youve already shown us for the last 25 pages you are pulling at straws and splitting hairs to try to sound intelligable but youve come across as an assclown .your boy satan is probably pissed be casue yo udid such a poor job getting your point(satanic opinions rather) across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 you are pissed cause i keep proving the bible and your religion is nothing more than made up bullshit and oh #3 God dwells in chosen temples Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48 well where does he dwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 you are pissed cause i keep proving the bible and your religion is nothing more than made up bullshit and oh #3 God dwells in chosen temples Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48 well where does he dwell? 521681[/snapback] it dont matter what you show them, they have so much false hope they will die with that same hope, i feel very sorry for followers like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 i wanna see if i understand DickDiver...theres no god, yet theres a devil?...their both from the same story book, its like saying theres an easter bunny but no santa claus......hey doaddiver why dont you enlighten us all on how man came to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 umm blue douche, you show me where i said there was a devil,, you fool and to be in the argument, you must first have some knowledge of what we are talking about,,, you have none now go back and take some gertial old man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 umm blue douche, you show me where i said there was a devil,, you fool and to be in the argument, you must first have some knowledge of what we are talking about,,, you have none now go back and take some gertial old man 521739[/snapback] well if your truely 37 you shouldnt be spouting off about geritol because your old as shit yourself . you have gone out of your way to tell us about satan eve n quoting satanic websites and world renouned satanists and now you say you dont belive he exists and is not what your about ,what is it John Kerry? i say your full of shit and havent made one valid intelligent point in all these pages yet and not even worth acknowledging . your so called biblical contradictions are not even close to real scripture and make no sense whatsover. yo uare clearly pulling at straws and trying to feed people your bullshit ,but 99% of us that view your posts can see your just another unoriginal hypocrit to your cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee04le Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 "Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, That saved a wretch like me.... I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now, I see." It's a big race weekend. Memorial weekend. Before the start of the NASCAR Coca Cola 600 today they sang Amazing Grace. Thanks for your help getting the Word out helldriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) umm cockboy, clearly you dont know much about satanism only what your silly book says, MOST satanissnt use the term "satan" as a metaphor,,, BUT their are satainst organzitons that do belive in the satan as being,,,, but as i have said before, if you wann call me a satainst, then i glady bear that tag,,, as i know its only christian satanism that you know of i look at your false book and the devil as a horror movie,,, good story, great imagrey, lots of violence, blood, murder etc.. but it only a story sorry but i will never dwell in your so called light,, i have been into evil shit since as long as i can remember and so what if i take info from those sites,, all you do is quote a book too? and a book with so many lies and contradictions by the way oh like this one . God dwells in light Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness 1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2 well where again does he dwell???? Edited May 28, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 this thread kinda reminds me of caesar throwing christians into the arena to be fed by the lions if they didnt renounce their faith and they were stead fast and died for their cause ,casear thought this was good entertainment till the audience started to realize that these people were so driven i n their belief theyd die for it and slowly the masses turned to christianity because of this ,which is exactly what he didnt want and rome fell shortly after ,and christianity is alive and well 2000 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 well if your truely 37 you shouldnt be spouting off about geritol because your old as shit yourself . you have gone out of your way to tell us about satan eve n quoting satanic websites and world renouned satanists and now you say you dont belive he exists and is not what your about ,what is it John Kerry? i say your full of shit and havent made one valid intelligent point in all these pages yet and not even worth acknowledging . your so called biblical contradictions are not even close to real scripture and make no sense whatsover. yo uare clearly pulling at straws and trying to feed people your bullshit ,but 99% of us that view your posts can see your just another unoriginal hypocrit to your cause. 521753[/snapback] he has asked time and time again just a few simple things, and not once has he got a real answer. just babble on how hes stupid or the fact hes going to hell. more people might beleive if it really made some sence. not one of you have gave him a real answer, just copy and paste parts from the bible have contradicted other things that come up. i have read it to and had very mixed feelings, but later after looking and thinking alot about everything i have over the years been comfortable and much happier this way. than trying to be false just to fit in or have it written or told to me how i should think. and as far as general life goes things have been working out very well. compared to most of my false beleiving freinds and family. most of wich were told not to this and do that have been to jail and been on drugs, didnt finish school. i didnt go through any of that shit, and no way did i follow the path of god. i made my own path and am very happy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) good points YFZ, and cockboy, its more like the crusades, where you were given a choice of either christianty or death,,,,, good thing there are people in this time an age that will just not blindly follow a religion based upon lies, decit and hyprocrisy,, Edited May 28, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 good thing there are people in this time an age that will just not blindly follow a religion based upon lies, decit and hyprocrisy,, If there is a religion based upon those attributes, I figure you would be all over that. You would be there most upstanding member. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) ^^^ hey for a christian Rinbrad,, youre ok in my book Edited May 28, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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