rocketboy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 The major difficulty in chemical evolution scenarios is how to account for the informational code of DNA without intelligence being a part of the equation. DNA carries the genetic code: the genetic blueprint for constructing and maintaining a biological organism. We often use the terms of language to describe DNA's activity: DNA is "transcribed" into RNA; RNA is "translated" into protein; geneticists speak of the "genetic code." All these words imply intelligence, and the DNA informational code requires intelligent preprogramming, yet a purely naturalistic beginning does not provide such input. Chemical experiments may be able to construct small sequences of nucleotides to form small molecules of DNA, but this doesn't make them mean anything. There is no source for the informational code in a strictly naturalistic origin of life.please explain helldriver why all the great minds and research of our era have no way to create new life ? please explain how there is a given preprogrammed code of life that is impossible to create.? i already know what your rebutal will be(insults ,gruesome childish cartoons ,denial,change the subject) and it will have no explanation of this problem that no evolutionist can explain despite their best efforts .oh and I doubt the ansewer will be in the new slayer album lyrics.
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) ok then please explain how a STORY like noahs ark can be true, when it is phsyically impossible,, how could he get every animal aboard, have enough food to feed them, let along stop them from fighting amonst each other,, what about inscets? did you know there are thousands of species of them, and some we have yet to discover! yet you calim it to be true? LOL :yelrotflmao: you looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. :yelrotflmao: Edited November 14, 2006 by helldriver
rocketboy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 ok then please explain how a STORY like noahs ark can be true, when it is phsyically impossible,, how could he get every animal aboard, have enough food to feed them, let along stop them from fighting amonst each other,, what about inscets? did you know there are thousands of species of them, and some we have yet to discover! yet you calim it to be true? LOL :yelrotflmao: you looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. :yelrotflmao: just the response i was expecting from you stooldriver,you changed the subject ~again~ ...i explained exactly how Noahs ark would work about 150 pages ago.where theres a will, theres a way and a little divine intervention helps too,also i should note God created the universe and everything in it so for him to keep the animals from fighting or incest wouldnt be a very big problem for him . :happy:
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) yeah ok, just like you do,, cant explain it can you? and WHy is it that if something cant be 100 percent explained,,, than it must be god? come on, thats lame thats ll you say,,, well it cant be explained, so ohhh it must be god,, :yelrotflmao: yet there is NO proof of god either just like this good sTORY, i mean come on noahs ark? LOL Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long (Genesis 6:14-15). The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since? Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of Edited November 14, 2006 by helldriver
rocketboy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 wow lots of uneducated incorrect info in that copy and paste job you put up...theres overwhelming evidence of a great world flood at that same time frame ,he did not need to collect every species of every beetle ,he didnt need to collect fish ,alot of the animals could have adapted into what we consider different species today he only needed all the basic male and female of 52 body shaped land animals , he had divine intervention and a big family with plenty of time and help to get it done. God created the universe, he could have easily created new species after the flood ,this was 6 thousand years ago ,our carbon dating process isnt even accurate to that span .Now I ansewred yo u ,so know ansewer why DNA proves creationsim by means of a pre-programed intelligent design.tell me how a complex chemical process like photsnythesis that a plant must use sunlight to live could have ever worked through accident ,why a bat and a dolphin have extremely advanced sonar capabilites to survuve ?why bees and insects know exactly what to do and find each other by a very complex prcoess ? why animals/plants that rely on other animals/plants to survive could have ever existed without them ?al lthese needtheir advanced capabilites to even ever have existed. this must done by a preprogrammed ability of their DNA. this doesnt and couldnt happen by accident or gradually . also tell me where the missing link is if this happened billions of times over billions of years ,surely evoultion didnt stop with us ..surely there should be superhumans by now right .why do we stil lhave monkeys ?all they have is ancient primate bones and alot of theories and high hopes .
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) again, you are just going on the theory oh i cant prove it, so it must be god :yelrotflmao: so if god created new species after noahs are, WHY cant he do anything like that now?? huh? huh? WHY?????? and if he is such a good god, WHY did he destroy all thsoe innocent people and animals for a few bad ones?? huh WHY??? if you belive that is a good god, again, you have problems guy, if you really belive it was physcially possible for noahs ark to really happen, you have sever mental issues and oh on your evolution theory, there are so many holes its not even funny its time for you to think for yourself and stop being controlled by a STORY book lets start with these The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite. And God said, Let there be light Edited November 14, 2006 by helldriver
rocketboy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) geez man this is getting so redundant ...youve already posted all that same exact crap like 180 pages ago and we explained it already a million times ,go back and read what i typed if your that intrigued by it .seems to me its obvious youve decided years ago in your head and your not going to agree with any ansewer other than yours despite its logic and accuracy to modern science . bottom line like ive been telling you all along ..if you want to be agnostic than thats fine with me .I dont care where your going in the afterlife ,I know where i will be ...and im not going to judge you ,God will do all that in due coarse. :beer: Edited November 14, 2006 by rocketboy
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) caue AGAIN you can NOT answer ANY of it, it proves that the bible is full of crap and god will nOT judge me, cause i dont belive in fairy tales,, and AGAIN WHY dont you belive in any of the thousands of other gods,,, THEY will judge you and you have NO idea where you are going when you die,,, unless you have some factual proof of an afterlife as said before: bottom line is when you see you dont belive in other religions and gods, than you will see why i dont belive in yours Edited November 14, 2006 by helldriver
Master of Faster Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 The universe was created by an explosion, a great release of energy which resulted in the creation of all mass in the universe, E=Mc^2. Big Bang The Big Bang theory was proven in 1989 by two Americans, Smoot and Mather I believe were their names. They were able to actually measure the faint light and cosmic rays still left over from the Big Bang. They just recently won the Nobel Prize in physics for their discovery and affirming the theory. That is solid physical evidence of how this universe was created, there is absolutely no physical evidence that anything of what the bible says happened on this earth is true, yet we found solid evidence of something that happened millions of light years away, hhhhmmmm. Why wasn't the proof of how our world was created written about in every newspaper and reported on every news channel? Probably because it would upset too many people. People are just too blind, most are not ready to accept the truth of what happened and continue to have "faith", But that doesn't change that fact that we know the truth to much greater extent than any religious followers know, they just choose to ignore it.
06BaNsHeE Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 The universe was created by an explosion, a great release of energy which resulted in the creation of all mass in the universe, E=Mc^2. Big Bang The Big Bang theory was proven in 1989 by two Americans, Smoot and Mather I believe were their names. They were able to actually measure the faint light and cosmic rays still left over from the Big Bang. They just recently won the Nobel Prize in physics for their discovery and affirming the theory. That is solid physical evidence of how this universe was created, there is absolutely no physical evidence that anything of what the bible says happened on this earth is true, yet we found solid evidence of something that happened millions of light years away, hhhhmmmm. Why wasn't the proof of how our world was created written about in every newspaper and reported on every news channel? Probably because it would upset too many people. People are just too blind, most are not ready to accept the truth of what happened and continue to have "faith", But that doesn't change that fact that we know the truth to much greater extent than any religious followers know, they just choose to ignore it. Ok and what was there before the big bang?So all of the sudden a big bang occured and it created a sun and 9 planets or what ever.Oh yea and all the little pieces of the bang fell under soil and grew into trees??And then it created water and animals rite?
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) and what was there before god? one day a "god" appeared and waved his magic wand, and poof, ther was the world? yeag right :shoothead: Edited November 14, 2006 by helldriver
rocketboy Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) 2 guys found space dust and won a prize ...wow that explains everything .from a scientific view ,when have you ever seen a gigantic explosein create any new life form ? when does a giant meteor crashes on earth do strange life forms spring up and evlove ... light off a huge stick of dynomite tell me if strange creatures form soon after .have yo u not read what i already posted in the last 2 pages?it should be easy to ansewer those questions on intelligent design i posted . It is impossible to have gradually happened friend , If yo u dont belive in a divine creator yo uare only left to cling on to evolution to explain your existence .E=mC2 hmhmhmhmh...thats funny albert einstein belived in a divine creator . Edited November 14, 2006 by rocketboy
helldriver Posted November 14, 2006 Report Posted November 14, 2006 and cockboy You laugh at all that but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed came back to life and then ascended into the sky :yelrotflmao:
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