warwgn Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Faith 520187[/snapback] No that would be opinion not evidence or proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketboy Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 No that would be opinion not evidence or proof. 520189[/snapback] faith is something yo u use everyday but dont thin k about ,yo u have faith that when your alarm clock goes off it is actually what the clock reads for time ,yo uhave faith that your staircase will support you when yo u walk up them ,yo uhave faith when yo u jump out of a tree that gravity will pull yo udown and not let you float away . saying the earthg is millions of years old is NOT a fact and only opinion and specualtion based on evolutionary ideas of what they tell you ,we have nothing know n to be a million years old to test this idea against ,think about it. show me where there is any fact in your claims ,show me how a catyclismic explosian creates anything... science shows us giant explosians only destroy ,when i light off a quarter stick of dynomite and it explodes flowers dont start to sporadicly grow . repeat the same thing and the same shit is gonna happen ,just liek your ego, yo u think your big shit and act like big shit and now you get treated by the world like a big pile of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) faith is something yo u use everyday Edited May 24, 2006 by warwgn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonspeeding42069 Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 wow 17 pages of pretty much crap, face it guys you can turn this roum into a book with 5000 pages and still get no where.... warwgn is still gunna believe in his aliens, or that there is nuthing , and odaen is gunna belive there is a god almighty etc. you might as well close this topic , its pointless...... i could write 17 pages myself on this subject... i went to a "church" school for 8 years and when i got into high school and your basically free to do what u want etc.. i kinda went the oppisite direction because the christanity was pushed on me sooo hard , so i did study on everything i could find about satan and wichcraft and all that and some other religions as well. now that im all grown up had a few years of life under my belt , do i believe in God ?... yes and i do believe there is a satan /or evil you cant believe in one with out the other. FORGET ALL THE BULLSHIT IN BETWEEN !! did god kill this many people, did jesus do that , did mary the virgin do this ...... blah blah blah .... i would rather belive in a god that doesnt exist . then not believe and have him exist! all you have to do is believe. and not worry about all the other crap now ........as far as the bible go'es i think u could cut that thing down to like 100 pages of what really happened and is really true. for example.. the ten commandments... i think they were written by man (not through god ) as kinda like a pre- goverment back in those days to keep people in check , so they didnt kill or covet thy neighbors wife etc. carbon dating..... to me is like a lie dector test i have seen so many tv shows about it where they do a test on something like only 50 years old and it comes back saying its from the like 50,0000 years ago .... its another man made test it will fail !!!! i do believe certin churches are hiding some things as artifacts, books,etc... from back in the day ... maybe to proect us , maybe to keep us in check who knows but there have been many times where a priest, pastor... have come forward and said this.... and then all the sudden after the church has gotten to them ... they back down and say i was lying or i was mistakin we arnt hiding anything. ok im done this is too long already ! until aliens come kidknap me personally and tell me they are the gods, or one of you people on here rambling about this ( as i am ) is on national geographic , magazines and all that with hard evidence proving that there isnt a jesus/ god/holy spirit . my belief is still in god ! and everything else in between can kiss my ass! thank you and good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 and faith doesnt make shit work, if you have faith your alarm will go off and science fails to supply power to it that shit aint gonna go off, your faith wont make it work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwgn Posted May 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 warwgn is still gunna believe in his aliens, or that there is nuthing , and odaen is gunna belive there is a god almighty etc. 520227[/snapback] I didnt say I belive in aliens If I did I would provide proof to suport my claims though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 mel brooks, "history of time" I NOW GIVE YOU THESE 12,,, "SMASH" UMM 10 COMANDMENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilDaKid Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 thanks warwgn for correcting rocketboy on the carbon dating vs pb(iron) isotopes, which is what i had stated earlier. Nothing is created from explosions, just destroyed. That's bullsh!t. Explosions create the heat and pressure needed to create all kinds of things, like the smiles on all our faces when our shee tries to rip our arms off. Seriously though. Like many have said before. If believing makes your life better, then more power to you. Just don't discount anything that might disprove your religion. If you are right and god is real, then you really have nothing to worry about, and you'll get the last laugh when all of us "non believers" are in hell wishing we'd listened to you guys. Good luck to you all, I've had my fun and now i'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Faith is believing in something you can't prove. You must also have faith to not believe. You must have faith that there is no God. The reason that most or a lot of Christians have great faith, is because God has attested the truth to them. If you dare dispute that, then read the Bibe and ask of God in the name of Jesus Christ if the scriptures are true. Then see what happens. He has promised he will personally attest to you that you will know, without a doubt, that these things are true. Then when God answers you in the spirit, you will be blown away. It's really not that hard to find out, just non-believers are too lazy to seek the truth and it's just flat out easier to deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) you guy keep using the bible as proof,, but yet when it says stuff like its ok the rape, murder, sacrifice people, kill trees, kill newborn babies, than you dont acknowldge it WHY? \ if youre gonna use the book to back up your argument, you must accept ALL of it writings, just not ones that fit into what you want it to be, Edited May 24, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonspeeding42069 Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 18 PAGES OF CRAP COMMIN UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) religion really is for the weak, that need a constant crutch or a little bit of protection. i could scream all day, GOD IS DEAD, GOD SUCKS, JESUS SUCKS, and i will never be struck down from him. might piss off some forum members. but i get a little mad when my parents tried to force the shit down in my head, but then i grew up and stopped and thought about it a little and not one bit of it makes sence. so if my freinds, neighbors, or family are mad because my way of thinking makes more sence, and most agree with me that it makes no sence when its just me with them. but around other people they would rather have them all think along the same lines just to stay away from arguing. im not going to bow down just to fit in, i will try and give my reasons to the people i know, because i do care. and would like them to understand it feels alot better being myself and not feeling like im just following everybody just to be accepted. jesus stood out, right and hes considered to be everybodys hereo. he might have just been real fuckin high, as they must have been when the bible was put together to. i mean its about as real as a real shitty sci-fi movie. Edited May 24, 2006 by yfzut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNBRAD Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Well I don't expect everyone to believe. They didn't in the Bible, even when Christ was here on this earth and the many angel's that appeared to people and the many miracles and destruction that was done. Some would still not believe. So I can't really expect any different today. But guarantee'd there will be a day where every knee shall bow, whether you believe or not!!! Then some still won't except him. Sad really, but the Devil will put such a grasp on his people they will slowly be led to spiritual destruction and misery for eternity. There is only one unforgiveable sin, and that is denying the holy spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldriver Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 (edited) so rinbread, why is it that you just ignore the questions put before you? and bow before a graven image? lOL ahahah please, you need to grow out of this stone age thought pattern Edited May 24, 2006 by helldriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yfzut Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Well I don't expect everyone to believe. They didn't in the Bible, even when Christ was here on this earth and the many angel's that appeared to people and the many miracles and destruction that was done. Some would still not believe. So I can't really expect any different today. But guarantee'd there will be a day where every knee shall bow, whether you believe or not!!! Then some still won't except him. Sad really, but the Devil will put such a grasp on his people they will slowly be led to spiritual destruction and misery for eternity. There is only one unforgiveable sin, and that is denying the holy spirit. 520331[/snapback] when did the holy spirit come to you and ask you to beleive, send that spirit my way and convert me. at least let me see something, god, whoever, split the seas, just something wothwhile that is not deniable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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