Da Vinci Code

[helldriver]

well what i have found is that most bible pushers cant accept the fact that some poeple have no need for a crutch like religion,, and yet you feel the need to try and "convert" them. and even in non religious posts, you will somehow find a way to sneak in a seek god quote

Edited August 25, 2006 by helldriver

[banshee04le]

I was burned in the heat of the moment,

Though it couldn't have been the heat of the day

When I learned how my time had been wasted,

(And a) tear fell as I turned away

 

Now I've got friends who will give me their shoulder,

Event I should happen to fall

Time and his bride growing older

I've got friends who will give me f**k all

 

(On the) corner of Bleeker and nowhere

In the land of not quite day

A shiver runs down my backbone

Face in the mirror turns grey

 

So (I) looked round to hitch up the reindeer

Searching hard trying to brighten the day

I turned around to look for the snowman

To my surprise he'd melted away.

 

As the moon and the stars call the order

Inside my tides dance the ebb and sway

The sun in my soul's sinking lower

While the hope in my hands turns to clay

I don't ask that my field's full of clover

I don't moan at opportunity's door

And if you ask my advice, take it slower

Then your story'd be your finest reward.

 

Lost on the path to attainment

Search in the eyes of the wise

When I bled from the heart of the matter

I started bleeding without a disguise

 

Now everything's fine under heaven

Now and then you've got to take time to pause

When you're down on the ground, don't be messin' around

Or you'll land in a boat without oars

Hey babe, Hey babe, Hey babe,

I lost my way.

 

Hey babe, Hey babe,

I don't know where I'm gonna find it.

 

Hey babe, Hey babe,

Do you wanna know,

Do you really, really, wanna help me, yeah?

 

Let me tell you now, babe

Let me tell you

That it feels so good that it must be right

 

Now my babe,

Let me tell you

That it feels so good that it must be right...

[helldriver]

some lyrics from DEICIDE

 

song- Fuck Your God

 

I forsee at my end to be banished,

By your god for my life and branding

Never around, in the greatness of sorrow,

Screw your god and his UN writ moral.

Stifle god, and the idols of hatred,

Out of my heart, I have always been free,

One with no need all alone and satanic.

Wretched and Vile, fuck your god, de face him.

Who could believe in a lord that's demanding?

Hard to believe when we die we vanish,

In his deny and for all his creation,

Fuck your god and his righteous hatred.

You and your son, you are nothing but absence,

Something not there that controls this planet,

Only deceit do I see in your hallow

If you believe you will dwell in failure.

Fuck Your God, Holy mother for the whore she is,

Fuck your God, bible thumper preaching threats from hymn,

Fuck your god, his revival and the holy Ghost,

Fuck your god; only tell us what we need to know,

Fuck your god, pointing fingers and then do as me,

Fuck your god, you are nothing and you'll never be,

Fuck your god; it is Satan who in trusts my soul,

Fuck your god, where the Christians are I will not go.

Fuck your god!!!!!

 

Fuck his, commandments, and prophet's left stranded to die,

Not in my heart or my soul as I go through this life,

Good book of bullshit lay dirty with vengeance and lies,

Go fuck your Jesus and get- the- fuck out my sight.

 

Unity over flowing with anger,

It is our time to remove the savior,

Christians are weak and the bible is beaten,

Homage to god, in this world not needed.

Fuck your god an his annals of plager,

Falling apart and exposing the light,

I will not live by the words of their Jesus,

He did not die to protect or save me.

There is just blood in his book of deceiving,

Riddles and crap to his divine healing,

Fail is your faith and you blame it on Satan,

Christians can't see that their preys are wasted.

Not a slave to religion unrendered,

Falsified god and his Christ redempters.

Never to be in the presence of grandeur,

I am for me and forever after.

 

Fuck Your God, Holy mother for the whore she is,

Fuck your God, bible thumper preaching threats from hymn,

Fuck your god, his revival and the holy Ghost,

Fuck your god; only tell us what we need to know,

Fuck your god, pointing fingers and then do as me,

Fuck your god, you are nothing and you'll never be,

Fuck your god; it is Satan who in trusts my soul,

Fuck your god, where the Christians are I will not go.

Fuck your god!!!!! Fuck you!!!!

[banshee04le]

Awwww....but were friends. I'm going home. Talk to you later.

 

When the lights go down in the city,

and the sun shines on the bay,

do i want to be there,

in my city,

ohoh ohohoh ohoh

 

So you said your lonely

well my friend i'm lonely too

i want to get back, to my city

by the rain, ohoh ohohoh ohoh

 

its sad ohh,

theres been mornings

out of the world without you,

without your charm

ohohoh nah nah nah ohoh

 

when the lights go down in the city

and the sun shines on the bay

do i want to be there, in my city oh oh

ohoh ohohoh ohoh

 

(freestyle)

 

when the lights go down in the city

and the sun shines on the bay

do i want to be there

in my city,

ohoh ohohohoh ohoh

 

 

he he...this is fun.

[helldriver]

agreed. this is fun, i love the post band lyrics game

 

this time from MOTORHEAD

 

song- "I dont need religion"

 

 

Don't need no blind belief

Don't need no comic relief

Don't need to see the scars

Don't need Jesus Christ Superstar

Don't need no Sunday Television

Bet your life you don't need religion

 

Don't need no time for prayer

Don't save no knee-pads for me up there

If your head's alright, ya don't need binoculars to see the light

Ya don't need no miracle vision

Bet ya life I don't need religion

 

I don't need no Santa Claus

Don't believe in fairies no more

Don't need to go to confession

I'm already trying to fight depression

Don't need no exorcism

Bet ya life etc.

Edited August 25, 2006 by helldriver

[Blue Duece]

the bible assholes think just cause a book says so, it must be true!!!

lol

again 04le -loser,, you are going on " scripture says, jesus tells us, the bible says" type shit

so i guess every book that was written must be true

there are NO evidence to back any of that

an i never said i was a athiest anyways

o4's post was scientific fact it didnt have a goddamm thing to do with the bible, you hellpuffer my friend are a asshole....you qoute a book and your right 04 quotes a BOOK AND HE'S WRONG, you'd argue the sun doesnt shine..........you've pronounced in every thread you dont think theres a god that makes you an athiest, you never said you were a cocksucker either but the fact your 40 years old never been married and no kids SCREAMS your a fucking pipesmoker

[helldriver]

o4's post was scientific fact it didnt have a goddamm thing to do with the bible, you hellpuffer my friend are a asshole....you qoute a book and your right 04 quotes a BOOK AND HE'S WRONG, you'd argue the sun doesnt shine..........you've pronounced in every thread you dont think theres a god that makes you an athiest, you never said you were a cocksucker either but the fact your 40 years old never been married and no kids SCREAMS your a fucking pipesmoker

and you need spelling lessons :yelrotflmao: whats a QOUTE??? aNOTHER spell checker THAT can't spell himself,,, never fails

 

and because someone says they dont belive in god DOES NOT automatically make tham a atheist

 

what about satanist, they arent atheist you dumb fuck

Edited August 25, 2006 by helldriver

[banshee04le]

Wow you are fully incapacitated. I'm sorry to here that. You have tweety birds flying around your head wierdo. YooooHoooo. Never mind. Mission accomplished.

[helldriver]

hahah there goes the start of 04les non religious name calling posts

 

good little , devil keep it up!!!!!

 

than tommorow you can preach how much you hate that stuff!!! :yelrotflmao:

Edited August 25, 2006 by helldriver

[enFORCER]

You think that your uneducated beliefs warrant slander against someone elses beliefs who may be more educated because they actually chose to SEEK God. Ok. Believe what you want.

Shit like that offends me.

First off, I did not say "they" were "my" uneducated beliefs. I simply stated I was not educated on them enough to discuss and debate them (string theory's).

Second, I did not slander anyone's faith or religion.

 

Third, I do not need your permission to "believe what I want"

[Blue Duece]

jimmy page, { a aliester crowley follower} put some nice little evil messages in that song nowadays with cds, youc ant do it

bullshit asshole ive spoken to john glynns theres no backwards shit anywhere in zep tunes.....and nowadays you highlight the passage you want and go to "edit" and select reverse and it's now backwards you fucking idiot, back in the day you rolled one master backwards to a master that was going fordwards, on a 2" multitrack you thread the real backwards then record the track playing backwards onto a machine playing forward and then punched it in to the multitrack going forward.......

Edited August 25, 2006 by Blue Duece

[banshee04le]

Atheism Hits a Brick Wall:

The First Law of Thermodynamics

By Chuck Missler (From his Book "The Creator Beyond Time and Space")

 

The First Law of Thermodynamics asserts that matter or its energy equivalent can neither be created nor destroyed under natural circumstances.1 One of the logical outcomes of this law is that there is no new matter or energy appearing anywhere in the universe, nor is there any matter being annihilated. All matter and energy in the universe is conserved. Consequently, this law is often referred to as the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy. Although matter can neither be created nor destroyed, it can be converted from one state to another, i.e. from a liquid to a gas, liquid to solid, solid to gas. The overwhelming experience of experimental physics confirms this First Law to be a fact. As we shall see, this law has enormous implications regarding the origin of matter in our universe.

 

Proton Decay

 

Protons are positively charged particles which reside in the nucleus of every atom. Each proton consists of a least three quarks. For decades it was assumed that protons were eternally stable. However, physicists now believe that quarks decay into antiquarks, pions and positive electrons, and electromagnetic radiation.2 This decay process occurs at a rate of only once per proton per 10^32 years. Consequently, since this process is irreversible, all the atoms in the universe will eventually decay into irretrievable matter. Even though this process of decay will take an enormously long period of time, it is not infinite.

 

Cosmic Evolution and the First Law

 

Skeptics often scoff at the biblical creation account because it invokes a supernatural event for the origin of time, space, and matter. Yet, if we search the field of cosmology in the last one hundred years we find that the theories on the "natural" (as opposed to supernatural) origin of matter are few and far between. There are only two options for the origin of matter: it is either eternal or it appeared at a finite point in the past. With the elucidation of the First Law of Thermodynamics the implications of this debate, as we will see, have been clearly defined.

 

Faced with the evidence of a finite, expanding universe, cosmologists began to look for a way to salvage the existence of an eternal universe. In the 1940's Hermann Bondi, Thomas Gold and Fred Hoyle proposed a mechanism that would allow the expanding universe to still be infinitely old3,4 This model for the universe, called the "Steady State Model," asserts that as the universe expands, hydrogen atoms arise spontaneously from nothing in the deep recesses of space. The result is that the universe appears about the same (in a "steady state") in all ages.

 

In the last forty years this model for the universe has been discredited by a number of scientific discoveries. The first of these has to do with the age of the galaxies. If the universe is infinitely old then we should expect to find galaxies of all ages. However decades of observations reveal that all the visible galaxies in our universe are "middle aged." Secondly, there is no physical (natural) mechanism for the spontaneous origin of hydrogen atoms. In fact, hydrogen atoms have never been observed to appear spontaneously anywhere in the universe.5 Thirdly, Isaac Newton's Law of Inertia declares that a body at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. In the Steady State Model there is no mechanism to explain the motion of the galaxies.

 

The First Law of Thermodynamics is called a "law" because within the bounds of scientific observation it has been proven true beyond all reasonable doubt. In effect, the First Law states that you and I can neither create nor destroy matter. Therefore, it follows that if something which exists (you and I) cannot create matter, then something which doesn't exist cannot create it either!

 

Matter cannot create itself and, in the real world, cannot arise from nothing. Within the bounds of natural law all effects must have a cause.6 Because of this fact, the spontaneous appearance of hydrogen atoms out of nothing (ex nihilo creation) is a definite breach of the First Law of Thermodynamics which asserts that matter, under natural circumstances, can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore, since it is not a natural event, it is by definition a supernatural event-a miracle! This is, we believe, a rather weak starting point for a materialistic scenario to begin.

 

To avoid this conclusion, a number of physicists have proposed that the laws of physics are different elsewhere in the universe.7 However, this assertion is not supported by even a shred of scientific evidence. Such appeals reveal the lengths that some will go to avoid a finite beginning for the universe.

 

Since matter is not eternal, we are left with only one option- it arose out of nothing at a finite point in the past! Ironically, the scientific materialist who argues that all matter in the universe arose out of nothing is in agreement with the biblical creationist. However, biblical creationists readily admit that the appearance of matter out of nothing was a miracle, performed by a "First Cause" that transcends the physical universe. The scientific materialist, who believes, as Carl Sagan does, that "the Cosmos is all that is, or ever was, or ever will be," is forced to conclude that the Cosmic egg arose from nothingness apart from any causal agent.

 

The atheist immediately protests, "If God made the universe then who made God?" The Bible indicates that God is an eternal, transcendent Spirit.8 Consequently, because time is itself a physical property of the universe which God created, then questions about God's origin are meaningless. This is because God existed before time and He is, therefore, not subject to time-bound concepts such as birth and death. He is outside of time!

 

Furthermore, because God always existed prior to the creation of the universe and the laws by which it is governed, He is not subject to them either. This means that God was never "young" nor is He aging as dictated by the Second Law. He is outside of our space-time domain and outside of the aging effects altogether.

 

At the beginning of the atheist's scenario, there is an equally difficult question. "Who or what made that ball of matter that exploded in the Big Bang?" The answer is that the Cosmic Egg made itself, which is impossible on the basis of natural law.

 

So at the beginning of each model of origins we have unanswerable questions. Atheists may then argue that they are equal starting points. But are they?

 

The creationist's model begins with an infinitely intelligent, omnipotent, transcendent Creator who used intelligent design, expertise or know-how to create everything from the sub-atomic particles to giant redwood trees. Was it a miracle? Absolutely!

 

"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)."

Genesis 1:1

 

The atheist's model begins with an even more impressive miracle - the appearance of all matter in the universe from nothing, by no one, and for no reason. A supernatural event. A miracle! However, the atheist does not believe in the outside or transcendent "First Cause" we call God. Therefore, the atheist has no "natural explanation" nor "supernatural explanation" for the origin of space-time and matter. Consequently, the atheistic scenario on the origin of the universe leaves us hanging in a totally dissatisfying position. He begins his model with a supernatural event. This supernatural event, however, is accomplished without a supernatural agent to perform it.

 

Atheism Hits a Second Brick Wall: The Second Law of Thermodynamics

 

Is anyone, what huh...did you say something? We are just getting started. lol

Huh.

 

Dr. Phil said I'm ok your ok. Are you feeling ok? lol

 

Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face.

Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race,

On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place,

If the summer changed to winter, yours is no disgrace.

 

Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are,

Shining, flying, purple wolfhound, show me where you are,

Lost in summer, born in winter, travel very far,

Lost in losing circumstances, that's just where you are.

 

Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face.

Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human race,

On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place,

If the summer changed to winter, yours is no,

Yours is no disgrace.

Yours is no disgrace.

Yours is no disgrace.

 

Death defying, mutilated armies scatter the earth,

Crawling out of dirty holes, their morals, their morals disappear.

 

Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face.

Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human, silly human race,

On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place,

If the summer changed to winter, yours is no,

Yours is no disgrace.

Yours is no disgrace.

Yours is no disgrace.

[helldriver]

oh come on now blue douche, i thought you with all this "supossed" knowlege on the recording indusrty would even know that, that led zepp song is one of the most famous back masked records

 

i have it on tape as well as many other back masked id you want a copy let me know, OR i can tell you to take your record player start from the end, and about half way in, you will hear it, its clear as day

 

man you cant be that stupid

Edited August 25, 2006 by helldriver

[enFORCER]

Many fundamentalist Christians see the theory of evolution as a threat to their faith, evidently because it is not explicitly included in Genesis. (They also misunderstand the scientific application of the word "theory" that the chemist uses in discussing atomic theory or the kinetic molecular theory of gases, ideas as unquestioned by all chemists as evolution is by professional biologists.) This is tragic because it cuts off sincere individuals who are not scientists from understanding the powerful relevance of one of the most important concepts in all of science.

 

Most disquieting to chemists who are interested in thermodynamics are the misleading statements about the second law and chemistry that creationist have made.

[banshee04le]

Wow you better go back about 4 or 5 pages and READ. We have already surpassed your

faith based racist attack. Do you read? Go back and try again.